Best items to Chance?

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raics wrote:

In general, when they introduced map-only uniques they removed chancing restriction to even out the field.

Oh man, that just made my day!
I must've missed the info on patch notes since I do read them all usually.

Thanks for the info

Really depends on what you're chancing. I did some citrine/amber collecting recently because I wanted a few more Salutes and as long as I opened an Anarchy map I could also spend the rest of the orbs on agates and try to get a Voll.

So, if you want full 6 attempts you need a total of 342 chance orbs and amulets, I think this is the cheapest you can go if you take it as a relaxed, semi-longterm endeavor like I did.
- the cheapest way to get chances is to do the chance recipe with trash uniques and spend 1 alch for 5 chances, let's make that 60 alchs (20 chaos) because you will get the rest while farming amulets.
- best way to get amulets is to level a char and check shops after every level, you can buy agates directly for 1 trans or you can buy amber/lapis and combine them in which case you're spending 3 trans orbs. Both ways roughly yield the same amount of amulets so the price is 2 trans for an amulet, making it 600 trans orbs in total (10-15c), assuming you will drop the rest as you level the char. You can get something between 10 and 20 amulets per levelup, it will vary a lot, and you can also ask your buddies to check shops once in a while.
- So, including map opening fee the total price is a bit over an exalt.

Now, what you can expect is to get a low rarity unique every ~30 orbs, a medium rarity one every ~60 orbs and a high rarity one may take an entire attempt, I'd guess it's around 300 for something like a Voll. My luck was about average, I stopped after third Salute, which took two inventories, and switched over fully to agates, unfortunately getting no Volls. Considering the price of a Salute is around 3ex, I'd say that's much, much cheaper than buying them.

Wait chancing Voll's is 1:300 ? Either I'm not understanding how you explained it or there is an increased chance in the Zana map mods or something. I have spent well over 1000 chance orbs in the last 2 years on Gavel, Occultist's vestments, Siege Axe (pre-nerf) and every map that can roll unique and never chanced anything at all. I'm going to start hoarding agates now.

I don't think voll is ultra rare tier but it's certainly rare, we don't really know the exact chance but I'd say it's at least 1:300 from community data, no lower than that but I don't think it's higher than 1:500 either. So I'd say you should be able to get it out of two attemps, one if you're lucky.

In any case, I don't really have anything better to use my trans and alch orbs on, if you take it slowly like I did it's extremely cheap considering the potential reward. I've chanced some other stuff too, like a Bino and two Edge of Madness swords, the latter took only 60 chance+scours for the pair, but getting two ilvl 50 etched swords (for the sockets) was goddamn annoying.

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jackof8lades wrote:

i call bulshit on those numbers if they were real going on the current prices for a voll you could make infinite money by simply buying all you neeed chance it to a vols and repeat and make a huge profit.

Yeah, that's what people do. Near the end of Torment I've seen people buying chances and agates at 4:1 chaos which is a ludicrously high rate, I assume it was profitable even at 3ex per run. The actual number probably isn't that important if you did it like I did, you could make 10 runs and still double your money.

I like high ilvl Judgement Staves. 2 strong uniques and a chance of good attack weapon, spelldmg weapon or srs weapon.