The Intuitive Leap Jewel is actually garbage

Min max is serious business... If 1 or 2 passive points doesn't matter, why did I bother spending over 300-400 ex to get level 100?

Some insight data.

LL ST pre forsaken masters op best at lvl 92, early forsaken masters 96. Up to date now, ideally LL ST requires lvl 98.

If there's a new LL ST nerf, and if the jewels provide a extra 2-3 freed up passives per socket be jewels, LL ST might just survived the next nerf.

Ofc this is all too early to say~ I'm glad there will be a new jewels mirror fees race.

/1121092

for my build / source.

side note, my main is a scion, and it's the only class who can currently pull off its build, having the most access to jewels, looks like to me the biggest buff, (ofc you require all mirrored jewel) but it's still the best class...

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

You don't seem to ever been in really high levels in POE. Once you get there you'll see that the few points you'll save with this jewel are precious.This thing will be insane.
I'm surprised to see people agreeing with you.
Not really

Agreed. Did not think I would ever see people calling this jewel "bad". Seemed to me to be the most OP jewel they made so far, even one of the writers in the news articles mentions the possible implications of it and hints at why a beta is needed, to help test out things like 'Intuitive Leap'.

I recall seeing one or two pics or vids where someone had allocated the Infused notable behind CI and Mortal Conviction behind BM with the aid of this jewel. If true and memory is accurate, that would be probably the most powerful single buff possible for a build to access nodes like that without being restricted by their gate nodes.

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Peripherally wrote:

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

You don't seem to ever been in really high levels in POE. Once you get there you'll see that the few points you'll save with this jewel are precious.This thing will be insane.
I'm surprised to see people agreeing with you.
Not really

Agreed. Did not think I would ever see people calling this jewel "bad". Seemed to me to be the most OP jewel they made so far, even one of the writers in the news articles mentions the possible implications of it and hints at why a beta is needed, to help test out things like 'Intuitive Leap'.

I recall seeing one or two pics or vids where someone had allocated the Infused notable behind CI and Mortal Conviction behind BM with the aid of this jewel. If true and memory is accurate, that would be probably the most powerful single buff possible for a build to access nodes like that without being restricted by their gate nodes.

I do not think your memory is accurate. I believe there is exactly one teaser article that says that you might be able to do so with this jewel, but there is no picture suggesting such that I've seen and the pictures we have seen of the current build suggest that these particular cases of passive skipping are not possible on the current alpha.

I haven't seen all the videos though, only so many times I can see the stock footage without losing focus.

Then again, Chris says there are 20-24 jewel sockets on the tree in one of the vids when there clearly aren't, so it's clearly still in flux.

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Peripherally wrote:

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Iluvatar_gr wrote:

You don't seem to ever been in really high levels in POE. Once you get there you'll see that the few points you'll save with this jewel are precious.This thing will be insane.
I'm surprised to see people agreeing with you.
Not really

Agreed. Did not think I would ever see people calling this jewel "bad". Seemed to me to be the most OP jewel they made so far, even one of the writers in the news articles mentions the possible implications of it and hints at why a beta is needed, to help test out things like 'Intuitive Leap'.

I recall seeing one or two pics or vids where someone had allocated the Infused notable behind CI and Mortal Conviction behind BM with the aid of this jewel. If true and memory is accurate, that would be probably the most powerful single buff possible for a build to access nodes like that without being restricted by their gate nodes.

You definitely did not see it.

I alluded to it being a possibility in my article on Gamepedia, but also explicitly said that it would require a suitably placed jewel socket.

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Boem wrote:

Lets say your passive tree ends somewhere near a jewel location, this jewel might allow you to gain a maximum benefit of the end of your tree at lvl 90+ by being able to pick up only the big notables that give a good % bonus efficiency.

It's pretty much crap in all other situations thought since it roughly only saves you 1 or 2 passive points in total.

Not ALL other situations. Another use might be while you are still leveling up. You could socket the jewel and jump straight to all the nearby notables a few levels earlier than would otherwise be possible. Then later on, as you gain a few more levels and/or quest reward points, you could allocate all the other in-between nodes and then swap out IL for something else.

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Hodari wrote:

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Boem wrote:

Lets say your passive tree ends somewhere near a jewel location, this jewel might allow you to gain a maximum benefit of the end of your tree at lvl 90+ by being able to pick up only the big notables that give a good % bonus efficiency.

It's pretty much crap in all other situations thought since it roughly only saves you 1 or 2 passive points in total.

Not ALL other situations. Another use might be while you are still leveling up. You could socket the jewel and jump straight to all the nearby notables a few levels earlier than would otherwise be possible. Then later on, as you gain a few more levels and/or quest reward points, you could allocate all the other in-between nodes and then swap out IL for something else.

Agreed, also a decent functionality.

:)

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : hell people will find other uses for it, but i reckon its true potential will lie in 90+ builds when that +1 skill point can actually make a noticeable difference.

anyone do the number crunch for the +1 curse as is on that tree ?

from me skimming the tree, Ive figured the only way you have a chance even with 60 int, is in the witch area.

right now none of those socket spots are near the +30 int nodes.

It seems most ppl are under the impression that this jewel will 'save' 1-2 or so passive points.

It seems that every jewel slot will require at least 1 adjacent point(with a basic +10 node) to reach, plus 1 more point on a completely blank node for the jewel itself. So it will cost at least 2 points just to use it. And with that 2 point investment you may reach a node at around 3 points away.

But what i dont think they understand is that any other solid jewel will likely be worth more than those 1.5 points. 2 prefixes and 2 suffixes on rare jewels = 4 points? Not to mention the other unique jewels.

The real exploitation of the jewel will likely be more from how it works with respec points or replacing this jewel. And it's a coin toss as to exactly how this will work at this time. We will just have to wait and see.

Best use case I can see thus far, provided the positioning in the tree stays largely the same ( a rather big assumption ) would be if either Faith of Steel or Devotion near the templar became a Jewel socket.

This'd potentially allow picking Galvanic Hammer and/or Sanctuary if the radius was just big enough, saving around 7-8 passives for each. In addition to saving just 1-2 passives for the other nearby notables.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Remember that it costs a point to activate the slot. We'll have to wait and see if it matters or not.

Why would you need to connect to the node, if the point of the jewel is "you can get the stuff in the area without being connected"?