ormsen's guide to poe, leagues and money
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Hello fellow exiles
So a new league is starting and I figured that some of you guys might want a good start so here is my guide for the leagues and how to make money. Some stuff i basic but there should also be some good stuff in there if you are a good poe player. If you dont want to read it all, here is the guide when i went over it on my stream: http://www.twitch.tv/ormsen1/c/6392965 This post is in 2 parts first part is the basic stuff the other is the money making part The basic stuff http://www.twitch.tv/ormsen1 this is my personal stream on twitch I try to stream a lot feel free to drop by and ask any kind of question I will help you out to the best of my ability. If I am offline check the description for my mini schedule to see when I am going live next time. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Resetting instance: one of the first nice things to know when playing path of exile is how to reset an instance this is simply done by holding ctrl and then left clicking on that instance to open a window here your able to join old instances and create new. You can also make a new instance from town by going to the way point clicking on it and then hold ctrl while clicking on the instance you want to reset. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Linking stuff in the chat: As some of you might have seen people link different items in the chat, this is done by holding down Ctrl and Alt and then clicking on the item you want to link in chat. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ What is prefixes, suffixes and implicit mods? so there is two pools of rolls you can get on your item one pool is called prefixes the other is called suffixes a rare item can maximum three of each. There are different brackets of these mods ex. Local physical damage% if the item is level one you can get the mod heavy which is 20-49% increased physical damage and so the brackets goes up when the item have higher level. A good link for this is. poemods which will also be in the end of this tutorial. implicit mods is a mod an item will always have a good example is the coal ring which is one of the first rings you will probably see they give 20-30 life this is a implicit mod Items can roll different tiers of rolls, for example a chest can roll 10-109 max life, if it rolls 109 it is T1 and if it rolls 10 it is T10. There are several tiers for most mods, for example life has 10 tiers and +1 to gems in this item only has 1 tier. If you use a divine orb on an item it can only roll within the tier that it already has rolled. For example if a chest rolls 23 life it is T9, which is Sanguine. Sanguine can roll from 20-29 so if you use a divine orb on the chest it will likely roll higher. Items with several T1 mods will likely be valuable. Tier varies depending on itemlevel, so it is better to craft items with high itemlevel. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Commands: You can type some different commands in the game that will help if you have macro keys I suggest getting these set up /claim_crafting_benches so you dont have to invite the masters to get the benches /itemlevel is to check the level of the item /hideout This teleports you to your hideout /remaining This is to check how many monsters are left in you instance /help this command will show you all commands in game available for you /claim_crafting_benches reclaim all crafting benches from your masters _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ The base orbs: anything that add quality to an item works like this: it will add 5% quality to a regular item 2% to a magic and 1% to rare and unique items, up to a max of 20% quality.
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Blacksmith's whetstone will add quality to your weapon which means it will raise the physical damage one that weapon.
Armourer's scrap will add quality to your armor which means it will raise the armor/evasion/energy shield of that item. Orb of transmutation this will turn a white(regular) item into a blue(magic) item with up to 1 prefix and 1 suffix. Orb of alteration this will change the prefix and suffix on a blue item to new random prefix and suffix. Orb of augmentation this will add a missing prefix or suffix to an item with only one mod. Regal orb this will turn a blue(magic) item into a yellow(rare) item this is done my adding a third or a second mod. Ex if you have a magic item with one mod a prefix the regal orb will then add a mod from either the suffix or the prefix mod pool so you could get two prefixes, if the magic item have two mods the regal will add a third mod. Exalted orb this will add another mod from either the prefix or the suffix pool to a rare item(up to 6 mods) if a item only have a open suffix it can only add a suffix. Orb of scouring this will turn any item magic or rare into a regular item. This is often used for crafting as finding high enough bases for crafting can be hard and you therefore want to keep trying to craft your item. The orb of scouring is also used for other things such as making a blue strongbox white so that you can make it rare Orb of alchemy this will turn a regular item into a rare item with 4-6 mods on it Chaos orb this will change the mods and the amount of mods on a rare item it is possible to get the same amount of mods on the item multiple time when using a chaos orb. The chaos orb is kind of the same as finding another item. Orb of chance this will change a regular item to either a blue a magic or an unique item the chance of getting a magic is the highest a rare item is a bit more rare and the unique is very small but it can be very rewarding. (more about this later) Jeweller's orb this changes the amount of gem sockets in an item depending on the items level. A level 1 item can maximum get 2 sockets, a level 15 can have 3, a level 28 can have 4 a level 35 can have 5, a level 50 can have 6. Where as one handed weapons and shields maximum can have 3. Boots, helmets and gloves can have 4. Armors and two handed weapons can have 6 sockets. Orb of fusing this changes the amount of links in an item, the links are used to add in support gems for you skill gems. (more about this soon) Chromatic orb this changes the sockets colors as skill gems have different colors. The colors of an item is determined by the items requirements ex a item with high intelligence requirement will tend to roll more blue sockets, strength yields red and dexterity yields green. So it can be hard to get a lot of red sockets on a intelligence based item and will require a lot of chromatic orbs. You can use Vorici to help you out here. (check links at the end for the vorici chrom help) Orb of regret this will give you a regret point for the passive tree so you can change your skills points around however you also get 16 regret points thou out the game. Cartographer's chisel this will add quality to the end game part of path of exile maps. When you get to merciless you will start finding level 66 maps and from there work up from there. (more about this later) Gemcutter's prism this will add 1% quality to a gem which will have different effect on the gem but in general it's good to get quality on gems. An important thing is that you can also sell a level 20 gem and one gemcutter's prism for a level 1 gem with 20% quality at any vendor. It will take you some time to level up that gem again but you safe yourself 20 gemcutter's prisms and they are rather valuable. Glassblowers bauble this will add quality to a flask which will increase the amount you recover from a life or mana flask. If it's another flask with a duration the glassblowers bauble will increase the duration of the flask effect. Divine orb this will change the numeric values on a item and example of this. You have a item that have rolled the heavy mod like we talked about in the suffix, prefix and implicit mods part and that item could roll 20-49% increased physical damage so let's say you get a 20% roll which is the lowest you can then use the divine orb and hope to get a higher value. Blessed orb this will change the value of the implicit mod. As you may recall we talked about a coral ring that could roll 20-30 life if you say get a 20 roll the blessed orb can be used to change this so you can get a better roll. Vaal orb this orb is the orb of opportunity. What is important to know is that once you use a vaal orb on an item it will become corrupted which means you can't change it besides the sockets and links and you need to use masters for this and it's very expensive that aside. 1 vaal orb and do nothing besides corrupting it. 2 it can turn the item into a rare with 6 mods (sometimes it also change the sockets when this happens). 3 it can make it 6 socket. 4 it can make it 6 linked. 5 it can make white sockets a white socket means you can add any gem to it. 6 it can add/change the implicit mod. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ The value of the orbs: First of all I want to mention that the prices of the orbs varies in a league so this is some general numbers I am just going to go over the general orbs. We have chaos orbs which is the main orb that most other orb prices relate to. First of all we have orb of alchemy two to three of them is worth one chaos, 1 regal is worth 1,5-2 chaos. Gemcutter's prism are worth 2 chaos orbs. In the start of a league 2 orb of fusing is worth 1 chaos but later in the league people start trading 3 fuse for 2 chaos. Cartographer's chisel is 2-3 per 1 chaos and I would say 3 is most likely. Regret orbs is worth around 1-1,5 chaos. 2 scoring orbs is worth 1 chaos. Divine orb varies a lot in the beginning it's worth very little but as we progress in the league it gets more value so I am going to set it at 8-20 chaos it's hard to price. Exalted orb is the big money orb this also varies a lot in the start we are around 20-30 chaos then it shoots up to like 50 (warbands atm 78-80) (talisman also went to around 80) and goes back down to around 40. Normally on hardcore exalted orbs are a bit cheaper around 30. Alteration and chromatic is about the same 10-16 of them is one chaos. Jeweller's orb are 7-8 to one chaos. Chance orbs 4-6 to 1 chaos. This should cover most of it. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Skill gems there is two kinds of gems skill gems and support gems the skill gems is your attack and the support gems then affect the skill gems in some kind of way it can be scaling the damage make it crit more often increase the area of effect of area skill and a bunch of other things. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Crafting and helpful recipes The physical based weapon recipe normally it can be a little hard to get a nice physical roll on your weapon. You can force a decent roll by taking your weapon, a whetstone and a rare rustic sash and sell it to a vendor this will give you a nice physical roll. Then you can use a augmentation and hope for something good (that's the very cheap version) if you have a bit more then you can use a regal on it and make it rare and then use vagan the weapon master's crafting bench and craft a flat physical roll and then you'll have a 4 modded very nice item. The spell damage based weapon recipe Normally it can be a little hard to get a nice spell damage roll on your weapon. You can force a decent roll by taking your weapon, a whetstone and a rare chain belt and sell it to a vendor this will give you a nice spell damage roll. Then you can use a augmentation and hope for something good (that's the very cheap version) if you have a bit more then you can use a regal on it and make it rare and then use catarina's crafting bench and craft a like fire, cold or lightning damage depending on your spell and then you'll have a 4 modded very nice item + one to gems You can take a magic wand a alteration orb and either a ruby(fire) sapphire(cold) or topaz(lightning) ring and craft + one to elemental gems in this item based on what kind of ring you used. other recipes: Making resist rings: one iron ring and a skill gem will give you a resist ring: green will give lightning, blue cold and red fire. 3 of the same base potion will give you a higher level potion 7 vaal gems and a sacrifice piece will give you a vaal gem 3 of the same type of maps will give you one of the next tier (3 level 66 =1 level 67) There are 3 types of two stone tings selling one of each type to a vender will give you a prismatic ring which gives all resist. If you have alot of quality flasks or gems you can collect 40% quality all togeather and sell it for a orb you get 1 gemcutter for gems and 1 glassblowers bauble for flask. if you get a 20% quality flask it can sell for 1 bauble same goes for gems but this would be stupid as most 20% quality gems sell for 20 chaos to 1 exalted orb _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Check shops when you level up and loot this stuff when it drops on the floor: Chromatic items is an item with a red a blue and a green socket linked up when you sell these to a vendor you get a chromatic orb 6 sockets these you can start getting from weapon/armor vendors from cruel act 3 when you sell them back you get 7 jewelers orbs Stone hammers, rock breakers and gavels (white only). You can use 4 whetstones to add 20% quality and then sell with any map to a vendor this will give you one chisel All these items need to be white: Turquoise Amulet Moonstone ring Citrine amulet Agate amulet Topaz ring Diamond ring Two-stone ring (red/blue) Leather belt (I will return to them later in the guide) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Leveling uniques I do a lot melee builds and some of the really solid leveling uniques for me I have found to be slitherpinch, and wurm's molt for the leech, some good examples of other uniques that should be good for most builds are wanderlust which offers high move speed and cannot be frozen. Goldrim offers alot of resist 30-40 and a bit of rarity. The ignomon gold amulet this have some nice elemental damage and resist for act 1 normal also the accuracy and evasion is really nice. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Strong boxes: Strongboxes is a box that is guarded by monsters and when the monsters are killed you get a lot of loot depending on what kind of box we are talking about. The mods on a strongbox can be affected by transmutations alterations alchemy chaos scour, so this is why I always have some of them with me once i get some more money. Also using a vaal orb on a strong box will corrupt the items within the strongbox.
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Normal strongbox this can drop anything from the other boxes when I get to 75+ maps I try to roll more items on them or guarded by 3 magic packs for more loot.
Large same as normal just drops more items. I try to use my vaal orbs on these if it have the drops mirrored items mod if not then just same as normal strong box. Ornate same as normal but with higher rarity. I try to use my vaal orbs on these if it have the drops mirrored items mod if not then just same as normal strong box. (and also if you sell the normal and the mirrored item together there's a recipe that gives you one chance orb) Arcanist this drops currency orbs like alteration transmutation alchemy chaos exalted orbs so it is always good roll + items or quantity on them Armourer this drops armor so I do not really care about them. Artisan this drops armor scraps, whetstones, chisels and gemcutters. So it is always good roll + items or quantity on them. Blacksmith this drops weapons so I do not really care about them Chemist this drops potions it can be really helpful in the start of a league if you find one with the mod contains items with +% quality but I do not roll them Gemcutter this drops skills gems and it's very important to roll contained gems have experience as this can drop you level 19 gems also if your luck you get +% quality and that will give you a lot of nice quality gems Jeweller this drops jewelry like rings amulet and belts once you get to 75+ maps it's a good idea to use vaal orbs on them as all the items within gets corrupted and some of them are likely to get the 6 mod corruption so you get some nice jewelry and if they are bad you can still use them for the vendor recipes (which I will talk about later) Cartographer once you get to end game maps (which is next on the list of topics) you might get lucky and find a cartographer's strong box these boxes drop maps so it is important to make them rare and get + items or quantity together with a contains mirrored items as this will double the amount of maps you get if you have a very strong build you can also use a vaal orb on it once you have all the good mods on it and thereby get corrupted maps. Some of the corrupted maps will be very hard while others will be easy but the important thing is that once a map have been corrupted the boss have a chance to drop sacrifice pieces which is used to kill atziri one of the big bosses of this game they can be sold for a nice profit or you can try your luck against atziri for the possibility of great loot. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Maps: when you get to around level 60 and have completed most of act 3 on merciless you can start getting into maps. Maps will drop as you play on merciless or from piety one of the main bosses (she have like 50% chance to drop a map) the first maps you find will be level 66 and when your inside a map monsters within that map will also drop maps. White monsters will drop up to the same level maps blue monsters will drop up to +1 level and rare/unique monsters will drop up to +2. So killing monster in the maps will slowly give you higher and higher level maps all the way up to 78 which is endgame maps. Sometimes when you play a map you do not get any map drops and you might struggle keeping your map pool running in the beginning. But when you get a nice pool going you won't need to think about farming piety for more maps. I have found that the best way to get higher level maps is by increasing the amount of magic monsters on maps this can be done in 2 ways. 1 get more magic monster as a roll. 2 get more pack size as this will make the magic packs bigger. During the torment league I was able to never play lower than 75 maps which should be your goal if you want to level and compete on the ladder of a league or find good items. You will also find 75 ilevel items on a 75 maps which important for alching. (more about this later) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ The masters The masters offers a lot of unique ways of crafting it is therefore important to level them as much as you can also they will offer you daily quests with high area level once they are level 8. They also start offering you special items with unique mods on them called master mods or signature mods. The masters starts selling the signature mod items at level 4 so I strong suggest getting them to level 4. you should be able to get them to level 6 without much effort and that means you can use most of the crafting which is really nice. Also at level 6 the start offering you a special discount currency exchange that can help you out. Some times the also sell you a skill gem with quality which is almost always worth buying to sell to other players or make GCP's. If you are able to get them to level 8 they will sometimes sell you a unique item and some of them will have a really nice price so you can buy these items and make some money or use them. You can reset their shop once a day by doing their daily quest but you do not need to complete it as long as you just start the quest your fine.
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Eleron signature mod -(4 - 8) mana cost of skills jewelry only these are very helpful for leveling and therefore you can sell them at a nice profit if you get some good mods on them like life or resist. What I do is I buy them every day after doing my daily and use orb of augmentation to see what I get most can sell for 1-8 chaos. Eleron offers you 20 jews for 32 alts.
Haku signature mod + (3 - 6) quality to support gems in this item, if you are going to play a lot in a league you can but one or two of these and level a empower gem off hand in this as it will then level faster. Also getting 20 quality on it will help and get you to +130% experience on that gem, but it is a very hard gem to level. Once they are level 3 you can try to use a vaal orb on it and pray to RNgesus that it will turn into a level 4 because then you have a 30-40 exalted orb gem you can sell. Haku offers you 20 alteration for 64 augmentation (you tend to use a lot of augmentation so I would not take this offer) Tora signature mod causes bleeding on hit I do not really use these items as they are only ilevel 59 so you can't make anything good. she offers you 20 chromatic orbs for 48 jews (very bad trade do not do it hehe) Catarina signature mod +1 to level of support gems in this item, I do not see any use for this. she offers you 30 scouring orbs for 96 chance orbs (I never take this trade as I want to use my chance orbs for something else (more about this later)) Vorici signature mod +(20 - 40)% increased life leech rate this might be useful for someone I never buy them. He offers you 20 fusing orbs for 64 jews (this is a very nice trade and I try to make this every day) Vagan signature mod hits cannot be evaded this is a very good mod I always look if he is selling a dagger with this mod as they are worth a lot for people that want to use the support gem cast on critical hit. these daggers will sell for 8 chaos easy and some of them costs many exalts so that's a good way to make money if you find some. he offers you 10 alchemy orbs for 8 regret orbs (that's a bad trade you can trade with other players and get around 20) Zana she sells maps but they are normally rather expensive signature mod area is inhabited by 1 additional invasion boss. she offers 20 chisels for 12 chaos (bad offer trading with players can get you up to 36). The reason why zana is so good is her daily quest is a free map and you can even get unique maps and very rarely she opens a map called untainted paradise which is very good for experience spots on this map can be sold for 1 chaos and all the way up to 1 exalted orb depending on how bad people want to join. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The money making part a very important thing for making money is getting the shop program Procurement this can be downloaded for free and it really helps you. There is a link at the end of this post. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Skill gems the skill gem system was changes but i still find that some gems are sellable. some of the best ones are the drop only such as added chaos damage (4-6 chaos in start of league goes down to 1) and empower(always kinda high like 15-20 (ofc more if quality)) _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ The jewels: these can be worth alot but are kinda harder to craft you need to know a bit about the game and the builds to get the most profit. but in general u can go for gems with life and damage (make sure its the same kind of damage, as in for example axe damage 1/2 handed damage phy damage). As for spell casters spell damage, cast speed, life and crit is nice (just make sure it's not like fire damage and cold crit). _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vendor recipes for money Remember to make chaos and regal recipes this is done with ilevel 60+ for chaos and ilevel 75+ for regals. You need a full set of gear (2 rings amulet belt boots gloves armor helmet 2handed weapon) you can check the item level of an item by having it in your hand and type in the chat /itemlevel. If all the items are identified they will give you 1 orb if they are unidentified you get 2 orbs if they are unidentified and have 20% quality you get 3 orbs . _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Alching jewelry So when you play 75+ maps you'll be finding a lot of ilevel 75 jewelry that can be alched and if it's bad you can still use it for the regal recipe and as one regal is worth 3-5 alchemy orbs you don't really lose any money and you will get lucky if you keep doing this and get some nice 1-2 ex jewelries. It is very hard to get good belts but you also have to alch some of these so you have for the regal recipes. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Offhand leveling gems Another way I make a lot of money in a league is by leveling gems offhand in my second weapon slot I have already talked about haku weapons and how they can help you level up empower gems. What I normally level up is purity of fire and then vaal them to try to get a level 21 you can sell a level 20 corrupted for 15-30 chaos and a level 21 for 2-5 exalted orbs. Another thing you can do is try to figure out what builds a popular at the time you play and then level them because they will sell at a very nice price. Do note you need int dex and str to level them so level whatever gems you have attributes for. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Stuff you can use your chance orbs for Here's a list of items you can collect as they can be chanced for good gear or sold off for a nice passive profit. (not all items will sell to other players during torment the items people bought was agate amulets, leather belts and moonstone rings) First we have the name of the unique item, then the item base which is the item you want to be looking for (it needs to be white) and then the league where you can craft it in. Any means you can just chance it right away exept from the gavel you want 20% quality on that first for the chisel recipe. They way to get into an old league is by using Zana's map devise it will open up old leagues for a price.
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unique name --- base---league
mjölner ----- gavel ---- any Victario's Acuity --- Turquoise Amulet--onslaught Shavronne's Revelation-- moonstone ring--anarchy/onslaught windripper --- imperial bow---any daresso's salute ---- citrine amulet---anarchy voll's devotion ---- agate amulet --anarchy/onslaught headhunter ---- leather belt---nemesis berek's grip ---- two-stone ring (red/blue)----domination/nemesis valako's sign ---- topaz ring ----bloodlines shavronne's wrappings ---- occultist's vestment---any voltaxic rift ------ spine bow ------ any void battery --- prophecy wand .-------any gifts from above ---- diamond ring--------anarchy _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Useful links:
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/549432
this is a very nice guide there is some stuff I didn't cover and you can probably find it here. https://code.google.com/p/procurement/ this is the link for procurement there are also some nice videos and guides for how to set it up this is a link for my personal template. https://justpaste.it/k1kz http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki this is the poe wiki if there is anything you want to know search here. http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strongbox this is also poe wiki but the link to strongboxes it's helpful to have this link open until you know all the strongboxes my heart. https://poebuilder.com this is poebuilder a nice place to make you builds you can also use the path of exile skill tree but this offers a bit more information if you really want to look at all the details. (but be careful not to get confused). http://www.poemods.com this is the page I use if I choose to craft it's really good to see what mods you can get on an item. http://poe.trade this is the trading page it is where most people buy their stuff from. http://siveran.github.io/calc.html vorici's crafting bench is used to craft sockets and change the colors but should you use him for recoloring or just do it the old fashion way? this page can help you calculating the statistic so you know what to do http://poetools.com/experience-penalty/ this link you can use to see what zone you should be farming to gain the most experience https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UJrKOMRSX0o_-PhiJ3ifzlLFn0bUSa7UjJgfjr8Hi0U/edit a helpfull doc with alot of information, a good read if you have the time. https://poe.mikelat.com/ This website calculates the amount of mana or health you will reserve with your auras. Useful for builds that use many auras. http://poeaffix.net/ another link like poemods http://www.twitch.tv/ormsen1 this is my personal stream on twitch I try to stream a lot feel free to drop by and ask any kind of question I will help you out to the best of my ability. if I am offline check the description for my mini schedule to see when I am going live next time. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Last edited by ormsen1#3503 on Jan 3, 2016, 7:06:09 PM
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Need sticky!
IGN: Mellodiez
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" sticky what do you mean? (= |
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Didn't read it all, but seems like there's some solid stuff here.
Slight criticism : when you write long posts like this, you should really invest in good formatting and grammar! Makes it slightly annoying to read when there's lack of punctuation, upper cases etc. Example of formatting for easier viewing - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/339977 - The use of colors, quote boxes and spoilers just make it so much easier for eye and brains. Anyway, great effort on the post, I can most certainly appreciate that. |
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Great Guide my friend. This needs a Sticky.
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I haven't read the entire thing yet, but great work.
Only thing I've noticed so far: I don't believe scours work on unique items. Now to read the rest! :P Legacy SC IGN: Octora
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" a sticky tag keeps your post always on top of other posts, they never move down if nobody posts in them. can only be given by forum moderators. nice resource you created. and i also would recommend working on your formatting skills ;) age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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Okay thanks guys for all the good feedback, I need this post for my stream today which is why it's still a bit rough. I have a good friend who is going to read it and hopefully we'll make it all better in the near future. I will also try to make some of the stuff easier to read, when I get some more time. (spend like 10 hours writing it) hehe.
" Thanks alot for the tips i have made it a bit better, but still need help from my friend to correct it. Last edited by ormsen1#3503 on Mar 23, 2015, 7:42:49 PM
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Thank you so much for this thread! I am playing in the flashback league and you answered so many of my questions! Bless!
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should be updated for 2.0.0
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