How to Calculate Duel Wield Cleave DPS

According to the wiki, duel wield Cleave tooltip dps is inaccurate. It says, "The decrease to dual wielding damage is additive (not multiplicative). The character tab DPS display is inaccurate for this skill because it doesn't currently account properly for dual wielding attacks."

Can someone clarify this for me? How do I properly calculate Cleave dps in a dual wield build?

use tooltip on the skill bar

it says: main hand deals x-y damage, off hand deals x-y damage

sum it up, calculate average, multiply with aps and voila

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Ludvator wrote:

main hand deals x-y damage, off hand deals x-y damage

sum it up, calculate average, multiply with aps and voila

Wait, do I really need an average? Wouldn't the dps be .65(main hand damage + off hand damage) x aps since dual wield Cleave gives 65% damage from each weapon combined? Also, if you're using Dreamfeather, is the increased attack damage properly applied to those numbers?

when I say average, I mean min and max damage average

sum up both weapons damage

edit: yes, all modifers that affect actual damage you can deal are included in skill bar tooltip

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Ludvator wrote:

when I say average, I mean min and max damage average

Wow, brainfart there, yeah. Then once I have the average damage per hit of each weapon, I add the two numbers together and multiply by .65 to get total damage per hit?

0.65 should already be included

you add them together and multiply it with APS

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Ludvator wrote:

0.65 should already be included

you add them together and multiply it with APS

But if the .65 is already included, then shouldn't total tooltip dps be accurate? The wiki says it's not. I'll have to go check out the numbers.

dunno, havent played dw cleave yet

I know that it is certainly incorrect when dw with a skill that uses only main hand and offhand is there for support only (double strike, leap slam, ground slam). I also know that skill bar tooltip is accurate

Well, here's my skil bar tooltip:



The left hand deals 2569 average damage per hit, the right deals 2567, attack time is .1 seconds, so dps should be 10(2569 + 2567) = 51,360. That's pretty close to the displayed tooltip dps of ~49k. Now is my number off because of rounding or because I did something wrong? Is something still not being factored in for duel wield Cleave?

The character tab dps display (the one that comes up when you hit "c") has the same numbers as the skill bar tooltip at the bottom right of the screen.

yeah, now Im confused a bit. Have no Idea why wiki says tooltip is wrong. also kinda strange why your numbers are not separate for each weapon, like this



anyways, I must admit Im no longer confident. It is possible that Im missing something too (In this case Im sorry about that :))