Best bow type for tornado build

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sidtherat wrote:

sorry to say but these advices sound like RMT advices.. noone NEEDS 100k GMP tornado shot, not even half of it (esp the 'budget' player)

people are so obsessed with 'deeps' that some will not stop before getting all mirrored gear, no matter the steps required

both infractem and lioneyes are capable of clearing 78 maps without much trouble - sure, these are mid-level solutions but are still viable

to add to this - getting TOO MUCH 'deeps' requires a trip to vaal pact or forking hard cash for Acuity. reflect with 100k is impossible to handle without one of these two. one is passive/build costly, second is just costly

i miss the times when 'good enough' meant something

I do not really care if it sounds like rmt to you, my ranger was 90 almost 2y ago. I spent all that time gathering a fully mirrored gear and i am proud of it. Two years later i still mostly play with my ranger.


This being said, it is true that you can do it with a lioneye, most of us used it for almost one year. But i would say dps range that can be achievied now is nowhere close to what it was before. I believe 90-100k can be achieved without a fully mirrored gear. A fully mirrored gear would be more like 120-130k.

As i said, you also need to define what you are doing with it. If solo playing, both bows would be fine, if playing with friends and especially with one guy with shav and ONLY ONE mirrored weapon, you will feel sad because you will spent your time running after him while he kills everything.

But keep in mind that they are not endgame bows.

Again, a windripper setup would be really cheap compared to a glyph mark setup since all you need is a 6l chest, an alpha owl and a windripper.

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sidtherat wrote:

sorry to say but these advices sound like RMT advices.. noone NEEDS 100k GMP tornado shot, not even half of it (esp the 'budget' player)

people are so obsessed with 'deeps' that some will not stop before gettinwheng all mirrored gear, no matter the steps required

both infractem and lioneyes are capable of clearing 78 maps without much trouble - sure, these are mid-level solutions but are still viable

to add to this - getting TOO MUCH 'deeps' requires a trip to vaal pact or forking hard cash for Acuity. reflect with 100k is impossible to handle without one of these two. one is passive/build costly, second is just costly

i miss the times when 'good enough' meant something

Btw that bow I linked, cost me roughly 500alts, a few regals, and 1 divine to make. Also reflect packs is not a problem, you just hit the rare mob with one puncture and you evade the reflect or Cwdt save you. Btw i do agree that 100k is overkill, and would be very difficult to achieve without a glyph mark.

Well, to be more specific I was talking about mid to end game I suppose. I don't have that much currency to buy all the expensive gear u mentioned. Atm, my budget is limited to a few exalted orbs and I'm trying to make the most out of it.

Atm, I can find a 300 harbinger bow or lioneye's around 290 for cca 2ex. I can try crafting my own but considering my luck that might be a total disaster. I would give it a go but I can't find any cheap ''white'' harbinger bows, heh.

Anyway, thanks everyone for helping me out. If you have further advice I'd appreciate it :)

Actually, I got one more question, everyone is talking about reflect being a problem for lioneye's but how big of a problem is that actually and can I simply just avoid such maps?

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Anonymous_the_Pirate wrote:

Well, to be more specific I was talking about mid to end game I suppose. I don't have that much currency to buy all the expensive gear u mentioned. Atm, my budget is limited to a few exalted orbs and I'm trying to make the most out of it.

Atm, I can find a 300 harbinger bow or lioneye's around 290 for cca 2ex. I can try crafting my own but considering my luck that might be a total disaster. I would give it a go but I can't find any cheap ''white'' harbinger bows, heh.

Anyway, thanks everyone for helping me out. If you have further advice I'd appreciate it :)

Actually, I got one more question, everyone is talking about reflect being a problem for lioneye's but how big of a problem is that actually and can I simply just avoid such maps?

The problem isn't so much the maps, Personally I avoid them because I find them risky and annoying, The problem is the mobs with the reflect aura. They will inevitably find you. Now your first question, It's not so much of a problem if your going IR or something along the lines of that, but if your evasion, then with lioneyes you lose the chance to evade the reflect damage. Most pure Eva rangers have next to zero armor. So they Take a lot of damage when they do get hit, or in this case, hit themselves.

All in all though as a Pure Eva TS/puncture ranger, with CWDT+EC+IC+ID I rarely had a problem with reflect. (referring to rares with auras, again i roll out of phys reflect cause its annoying)

Crafting a bow is not hardcore, its simply often the best way to get decent endgame dps.

When you are starting out you dont need a 350dps bow, just craft something usable. Spend a bit getting an early ilvl73 5link decimation and that will carry you trhough 73-74 maps no problem.

Later on when you are flush, you can buy a 6S 77+ harbinger and go crazy trying for that tyrranical.

hey,
about reflects, you can avoid those maps for sure but what may kill you is the random mob that you do not see until you hit into it. You need to survive those few hits which can be hard sometimes especially when there are other mods on the map that are harmless alone but can kill you if combined with the reflect on the mob (like vulnerability).

~S

Like other said, Glyph Mark isn't needed, of corse if you are rich enough to afford it please use it.

Otherwise Lioneye is a high dps fairly cheap bow, I use it in my non-crit build:


If you want an harbinger you can also try to chaos it, I did this from a 6s5l luckily found on the ground:

I got lucky, I only used about 70chaos (2ex).