PoE 1.3 Skill tree revamps Discussion.

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Tempada wrote:

I'm concerned that this tree forces you into certain archetypes more so than before. The Acrobatics nerf, for example... Clearly that area is now ideal for archers since they (generally) don't have block chance. I suppose it's part of the nerf to crit too. Want to use daggers? Well, you're close to Acrobatics so you'll probably take that, although you sacrifice more defense now. Perhaps Iron Reflexes will be (slightly) more widely used.

Yes, I think it does too, and it is both a good thing and a bad thing. A complicated skill tree is a lot of fun to theory-craft, but chases away new players.

The tree is getting more like "one right path - many wrong paths" instead of being a confusing mess which god and his mother knows what path is best to take in order to get through it in an effective manner.

Good for new players, a tad boring for more experienced ppl.

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OniAsura wrote:

This is what I've been able to come up with for an axe build for Duelist I dunno I did it another way and had less int but more dex and attack speed

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAuR0V7Irw6UbKkITZqZRHfodqeHq9NqknZU1hIb6nhO8aVRLhGbR07WSjytMn1XrvNuiuUCzpYEsFLUZpAed7dKaNFSDdDV4TFE2nMGWndU4i4pAK_MVbryFVvJ_ynJ_Lns1l8EfiZ6BOKiz7GJFul9Ih0IGHdimliiL3vvJBah5XDaQ5Sn0nIIIHHOfZYZHO2XzyL62Nu-0aPs9--OtfP3aswaMUIPZIf-NOMmRS7w6Mz8RYMfsX4eJhUEc9_Cb4MHfkUVhjE0xZ_pd5xtgJljkOxII=

Since you are not going crit, and resolute technique is close, pherhaps you could drop a lot of accuracy and rather pick up RT. The life regen is perhaps not worth it. And I think perhaps I would consider playing it as a marauder. Hard to make a two hander good in hard core, though.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmy25HRXsivDpRsSCypCE2S_MR34B3LaKwYK9Nr6KYuxlTXgNhO--pwthqW4byHTteWi18kMxeu_BBDWStkEFLV8__o_YvU4qYEsUIBo-TeP-CluvKaVeE-8OfuKmV7c-8kXdDUCgUEd5OTGeOuHGrvzFwL_kUenVPC1noKmVBIcdvsT2TP-Hdgz3j5kzh3KpPQ-vbEp9rK8yTgPurKr3MhzOaPJZ83zZK1DwH58-wBoNzaIALdJmnho4_lQEs_rSkFXAZhZvJy-f3ySq42rvfDbp

Seems powerful for a Facebreaker Cyclone build (also 70% block with crest of perandus and bor)

Gif form of tree change:

http://makeagif.com/i/f7AS6e

Facebreaker cyclone can be equally strong, the only thing that irks me are those 2 elemental nodes that you need to take before picking up Amplify.

Also, your link doesn't work.

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Odoakar wrote:

Gif form of tree change:

http://makeagif.com/i/f7AS6e

Facebreaker cyclone can be equally strong, the only thing that irks me are those 2 elemental nodes that you need to take before picking up Amplify.

Also, your link doesn't work.

U have to copy/ paste it in the planner I guess

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Nutius wrote:

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OniAsura wrote:

This is what I've been able to come up with for an axe build for Duelist I dunno I did it another way and had less int but more dex and attack speed

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAuR0V7Irw6UbKkITZqZRHfodqeHq9NqknZU1hIb6nhO8aVRLhGbR07WSjytMn1XrvNuiuUCzpYEsFLUZpAed7dKaNFSDdDV4TFE2nMGWndU4i4pAK_MVbryFVvJ_ynJ_Lns1l8EfiZ6BOKiz7GJFul9Ih0IGHdimliiL3vvJBah5XDaQ5Sn0nIIIHHOfZYZHO2XzyL62Nu-0aPs9--OtfP3aswaMUIPZIf-NOMmRS7w6Mz8RYMfsX4eJhUEc9_Cb4MHfkUVhjE0xZ_pd5xtgJljkOxII=

Since you are not going crit, and resolute technique is close, pherhaps you could drop a lot of accuracy and rather pick up RT. The life regen is perhaps not worth it. And I think perhaps I would consider playing it as a marauder. Hard to make a two hander good in hard core, though.

Good point I edited it a little more. Reason why I was putting leech on is because the stat isn't easily gotten through items and I was gonna go blood magic with using mana for auras

Edited out the res and got more damage as a result since res in my opinion can be gotten more easily through items

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAuR0V7Irw6UbEgsqQhNmplEd-h2p4er02qSdlTWEhvqeE7xpVEuEZtHTtZKPK0yfVeu826K5QLOlgSwUtRmkB53t0po0VIN0NXhMUTacwZad1TiLikAr8xVuvIVW8n_Kcn8uezWXwR-JnoE4qLPsYkW6X0iHQgYd2KaWKIve-8kFXDaQ5Sn0nIIIH2WGRztl8rY2FUs9-6wl2rDkO6hgJlvjr9zKXecGjfNnkUU4yZFKbWFBHF-HiYTH77w4m-DB3FCATTFn-Xz_2SIzPxFg9_Fhjxtg=

I will keep my judgment about nerfs until 1.3 will be released with all new features. But I actually like most of changes.
Block nerf definitely has to do something with new counter attack skills!

Start Marauder area need to be changed, i mean there arm/life start.
Make MORE useful start for marauders, pls.

Maybe big %% Life or 100 Life or 10 IAS... just something better and more useful.

I think the new Templar are ends up being better for my Taryn's Shiver-Shadow than my original plan, so I have no complaints there.

The new Duelist are seems to have gotten less love than Templar, but I'm not sure... I don't play any character that is around that area really, I have a level 12 duelist that I got bored of playing.

Leveling up a facebreaker Marauder I'm a little concerned about the nerf to block, since now it seems very difficult to get to maximum block chance, but we'll see how it works out, I'm fine with GGG poking the numbers and seeing what comes out of it, if there's something that needs to be fixed after this version I'm sure it'll take a while to definitively determine.

Looking at the block nodes, I kind of suspect its been rebalanced around a 50% block cap. The amount of bitching about that when the patch notes drop will be incredible if it happens.