Voideye for leveling?

Just saw Voideye just now
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Voideye

Requires Level 45
Has 1 Socket
+5 to Level of Gems in this item

Hmmm. too bad it's level 45. What are the best skills that would benefit from it at level 45? For purposes of levelling up, farming in ledge,fellshrne,docks.

EDIT:
Poison Arrow? Would you need passive nodes for it?

Voideye is a single socket with +5 levels. The only gems that really benefit from this are Arctic Armor, since it cannot really be supported except by Empower, and curses. All other gems would be better off in a setup where they can gain one or more support gems.

So things like Poison Arrow and Explosive Arrow won't. This is because Concentrated Effect and Fire Penetration can offer much, much more than the five levels they'd gain.

Another good gem to use is Searing Bond. According to the wiki, a level 20 SB does 1,438.4 DPS while a level 25 version would deal 2,257.1 DPS. That's almost double, while Increased Burning Damage would bring the level 20 up to 2,287. So SB would be worth it since the difference is one socket.

Some good gems for Voideye:

Rejuvenation Totem

Searing Bond

Arctic Armor

Curses

Bone/Flesh Offering

Righteous Fire (if you're going for spell damage and not burn)

Vaal gems that would be good for Voideye:

Summon Skeletons

Besides that, all other gems would benefit more from a setup with support gems far more than +5 levels. This is also calculating that you have the option of using Empower to increase the level further and the possibility of +1 from the item itself.

For instance, it seems that Vaal Spark would benefit more from +5 levels, but Chain and Lightning Penetration would increase the damage so much that the +5 levels would be insignificant compared to it. LP basically gives ~40% more damage and Chain gives you three times the projectiles but at 50% of the damage, for a total of 150% of the original damage.

Nice explanation.

Given the structure of his question, he most likely does not have access to Empower, nor + to level items yet.

If we assume that, does your answer to him change?

The other considerations gem space. Yes some gems benefit more from support gems, but they also take up to 1-5 additional slots.

Likewise, Voideye itself does not provide any stats at all.

Personally I have used it with Poison Arrow, simply for the fact that all of my other slots were taken. It was actually quite effective, and I took only projectile nodes to answer your question.

Was just curious if it's a really good investment when your at level 45. it's about ~4ex on Hardcore League though... So given that it's HC, I guess most likely not a good investment.

If you already have one. Should be a cheap way to boost your DPS huh? So you can level faster.

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Clean wrote:

Nice explanation.

Given the structure of his question, he most likely does not have access to Empower, nor + to level items yet.

If we assume that, does your answer to him change?

No, it doesn't. As I said:

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Natharias wrote:

This is also calculating that you have the option of using Empower to increase the level further and the possibility of +1 from the item itself.

This means two things. Firstly, if it is a viable option, it can easily be added in. It is also not the best option for all gems, as there might be better gems to use with it.

As noted with Searing Bond, you get just a few points less damage by using Voideye with a level 20 gem than using a 20 SB with a 20 Increased Burning Damage. Either will work, but if you get just one more level or socket with the IBD gem, it'll become infinitely better. For instance, a level 4 Empower will add three levels, causing SB to deal so much damage that the one in Voideye couldn't compare.

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Clean wrote:

Likewise, Voideye itself does not provide any stats at all.

Not directly. One build I'm making uses auras to provide what rings normally do, life and resistances. So this allows the use of the Thief's Torment to counter curses, which lowers the required amount of resistances in case of curses, and gives life/mana on hit. This frees up a socket in the main attack, which means more damage.

In the case of Voideye, using Arctic Armor in it can mean much, much more base physical/fire damage mitigation. In builds that need that, this becomes a rather powerful item. This is especially powerful since it doesn't have the drawback of Thief's Torment, "Can't use other rings", allowing you to still benefit from at least one rare ring.

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ManicCompression wrote:

Was just curious if it's a really good investment when your at level 45. it's about ~4ex on Hardcore League though... So given that it's HC, I guess most likely not a good investment.

If you already have one. Should be a cheap way to boost your DPS huh? So you can level faster.

If you want the best DPS boost, use it with Searing Bond. It has a considerable amount of DPS already and benefits well from it.

You can also easily switch it out for Rejuvenation Totem, if you're life-based, for more survivability.

voideye is not the best leveling item, mainly because its not droppable anymore apart from the ambush/invasion zana map mod, the current price will only go up and up. The idea of leveling items is that they dont require more investment than your char

If you do have the currency to buy voideye just to level with it, its way, way better to buy a 5link searing touch, always.

the other option to use voideye for is aura's or curses:

offensive auras like wrath and anger will be a viable choice, however, you are giving up on elemental dmg rolls on the rings, and ias.

hatred and haste dont benefit you more than the 7%ias and maybe flat dmg rolls will do

defensive auras like disc, determination and grace will all benefit more from the 1ex elreon craft than using voidey

vitality is better with a higher life pool than that 5 extra lvls (which is only .25% regen)

clarity will benefit more from having %mana regen and inc mana on the ring

purities shouldnt even be discussed




when is voideye good? Lategame. AA, curses, etc. For summoners: aura's, arc