What really is an Action RPG. Is PoE the characteristic example?
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I'd agree that PoE is too mmo-ish to be considered the "characteristic example" of an ARPG. The "economy" aspects of the game and how it impacts design choices is not on my list of defining principles of ARPG... in fact quite the opposite.
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The point of the thread was pretty much in the final quetion. What are the element's in your opinion that conistutes an Action RPG. Of course labels have no significance in the end. PoE was used as an example because here in this forum i have been flamed for calling non-diablo style games ARPGs. Tha part about PoE being the "characteristic example" was more of a rhetoric quietion.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Action Role Playing Game.
The term is fairly broad, and there existed aRPG well before Diablo. Games like Might and Magic, etc., which differed from other RPGs such as EotB or Baldur's Gate. An aRPG is any Game where you Play a Role by executing real-time Actions, rather than making decisions in a turn based environment. Devolving Wilds
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That's far too broad of a definition to be useful.
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Poppycock. That's what an aRPG is; it's a blend of two broad genres--action games (like Prince of Persia) and role playing games (like Baldur's Gate).
If that is too broad to accurately describe a given title, then there are more keywords that can be used to narrow the scope; however, that doesn't mean that's not what aRPGs are, and especially not because people like to make up their own definitions. Devolving Wilds
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So Microsoft Flight Simulator is an ARPG? You're too attached to the English meanings of the words used to construct the term ARPG. When defining a term for classification purposes, you don't adhere to the original use of the words. They lose their lay-meaning the moment you start trying to structure your definition.
In defining a classification, you have to consider your superset... in this case computer games. Then you have to find the subset you want to isolate from it and try to define terms that will include what you want in the set and exclude those you don't. It's tricky. You test your definitions with examples... like Skyrim or M$FS. If too many bad examples leak into your subset, you've made your definition too broad and need to tighten it up a bit. If games you want included fail, you need to soften your definition. The key to successfully classifying something is to be able to clearly state the rules of your definition based on previously defined terms. Your term "role" is too broad, as it hasn't been defined yet. Last edited by Shagsbeard#3964 on Nov 1, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
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If you like it, it is an arpg. If you don't, it is an mmorpg.
When I kill a man he stays dead.
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" I highlighted why your point was kinda bad. Microsoft simulator doesn't have characteristic of a role-playing game or a action game ~>~ Last edited by RagnarokChu#4426 on Nov 1, 2014, 12:03:31 PM
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It's a game. You act in real time. You play a role.
I'm not saying that M$FS should be included... I'm criticizing the definition provided as too broad because it would include far more games than should be included. |
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No, the issue is that you're too broadly applying my statement, "playing a role."
Replace it with whatever you feel more adequately makes "playing a role" in an RPG different from "playing a role" in a simulation game. I'm lazy, hung over, and was trying to make my point in as few words as possible ;D Devolving Wilds
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