Single Target DPS: Elemental Hit vs. Frenzy

So i've noticed more builds focusing more around Elemental Hit for single target DPS, and thus not focusing too much on getting more Frenzy charges with skill points.

Anybody test both and have any opinion? Currently using Frenzy + Weapon Ele Dmg + Faster Attacks (with Life Leech once I get colors/links right)

want to get some feedback before spending respec points.

I think the mana cost on frenzy is too high.
Plus you can bring an element depending on the enemies you are about to slay.

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akira115 wrote:

So i've noticed more builds focusing more around Elemental Hit for single target DPS, and thus not focusing too much on getting more Frenzy charges with skill points.

Anybody test both and have any opinion? Currently using Frenzy + Weapon Ele Dmg + Faster Attacks (with Life Leech once I get colors/links right)

want to get some feedback before spending respec points.

I'll be honest, I am not sure about it's end game viability, but I'm trying it anyway.

I have a hybrid ranger build that I'm testing out that uses max Frenzy charges. In response to what the poster above me said, I actually do not find it hard at all to keep my frenzy stacks up and the mana cost does not seem high (yet). Soloing is actually much easier in this aspect, but it is still group viable. You just need to know how to manage your mana and when to register your next Frenzy shot to keep your stacks active.

Mana leech and mana regen will of course help with this. But with the added attack speed, mana leech is much more beneficial than regen, and I usually make back more mana than it takes to cast Frenzy twice before I need to cast it again to maintain the stacks.

Granted, since I cannot play consistently, this is from a level 44 hybrid ranger's prospective.

Use both?
You don't need to spam Frenzy, just use it occasionally to get max stacks. That way the mana cost isn't a problem.
Then you can use Ele hit for the real single target damage.

I have a lvl 68 ranger and I'm using both, just like the previous post suggested. I'ts a bit annoying to keep the frenzy charges up, especially in hectic situations, but for the most part it's working quite nicely.
I did a little bit of calculations (because elemental hit doesn't show dps properly) and same manacost elehit does quite abit more dmg compared to frenzy.
Additionally, if you're playing a lightning arrow or some other elemental dmg oriented build, then you're probably using elemental weakness on your enemies, which also works great with elemental hit.

imho, for single target skills, frenzy > elemental hit. The scaling on frenzy is kinda crazy with 7 or 8 frenzy charges.
Use mana leech to sustain it, and there is no point using weapon elemental dmg with frenzy unless you use added fire dmg + hatred + blackgleam or something like that.

I'm using blood rage and frenzy on my hybrid ranger, and unless there is a desync ( frequent ) or big lag, I have no problem keeping my 7 frenzy charges up.
I don't use frenzy to dps though, only when blood rage won't refresh it in time.

I have yesterday got my hands on elemental hit. Definitely can say this is very big DPS improvement to use elemental hit over fire arrow or cold arrow.
The amount of scaling is that for 1 dmg I get 10+ DPS. That means on lvl of gem like 10, I'm already adding something like 750-900 DPS. On lvl 15 of gem or so, this will be adding like 1500 DPS.

Don't know whether Frenzy can keep up with such DPS additions for elemental ranger. Doubt that since faster attacks already stack up the attack speed.

This is from lvl 66 HC ranger perspective.

Still regarding survivability cold arrow can be definitely better thou with much lower DPS.

It depends on the bow you are using.
If you use a tri ele, no doubt, elemental hit will be much more efficient.
If you use a high physical bow to increase the initial elemental convertion, it will be quite different.

Frenzy needs to be with a hight physical bow ( like a LG or better ) to be efficient.
And there the scaling can be really high ( one of the highest in the game imho with 8 frenzy charges ).

Elemental hit doesn't depend on whether you use physical or elemental bow. It depends on the speed of the bow. The higher the speed of bow, the better for elemental hit.

With Frenzy, it's only good to use physical bow since increased physical dmg.

With exception if you stack up the Frenzy and then shoot elemental hit. Kinda not a comparison then.

if you compare it to Frenzy/burning Arrow/cold arrow, of course it does.
The three first ones rely on pure physical to scale, elemental hit relies on AS, from there you can't make a point comparing both using an elemental bow.

The dps increase with an ele bow from burning/col arrow to elemental it is kind of obvious, but with a LG for example, it's already really different.