2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

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8135ES (lv19discipline - no % ES on rings)
90,64% cyc crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
89,25% spell crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
342% spell crit multi (i dont have any crit multi jewel)
33500

Never needed Clarity, 1 jewel with +2mana on hit, warlord when i didnt have volls. Also never needed Purities. Did Atziri at 78 with 6k ES and no purity.











If i had a Taste of hate i would swap it for the Sapphire. Can also swap it for Granite if u feel like need some physical reduction.
NOTE: Maligaro skill setup = CWDT+Immortal Call+Increase duration+Summon ice golem

This are my Jewels

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alvuimil wrote:

REMINDER

8135ES (lv19discipline - no % ES on rings)
90,64% cyc crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
89,25% spell crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
342% spell crit multi (i dont have any crit multi jewel)
33500

Never needed Clarity, 1 jewel with +2mana on hit, warlord when i didnt have volls. Also never needed Purities. Did Atziri at 78 with 6k ES and no purity.

CI Tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV

If i had a Taste of hate i would swap it for the Sapphire. Can also swap it for Granite if u feel like need some physical reduction.
NOTE: Maligaro skill setup = CWDT+Immortal Call+Increase duration+Summon ice golem

This are my Jewels

If you don´t go out of mana its because you do wrong cyclones.
Try doing cyclones at max speed: movement flask, +30 movement boots, and close to your feet.
I have tested with my gear (2 elreon rings and 2 mana on hit jewels) and even it´s impossible to sustain without warlords mark.

My gear: Im at 9K+ ES and will get more when I change belt for axium or other...

Well,

since I have some mana issues due to Voidbringer, Im using a Soul Taker atm. Can someone tell me how it works with a mjölner? It would be hard to get the strength and intelligence i guess? Also probably I would have to swap out the Voidbringer and IDK if it is worth it.

Also I switched for CI atm cuz i dont have so much currency atm. I might switch to the original build again, once I have all the items and something close to Voidbringer. My ES is 5.3k atm.



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I currently run Discipline, Assassins Mark as Aura and Purity of Lightning.

Suggestions? :) Im leveling my gems still so my dps is okay but not amazing yet. I want to crit much more often, which should happen, as soon as i 6 linked one of my other 5 volls.... and also once i leveled my gems.

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reimbowl wrote:

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alvuimil wrote:

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Spoiler

8135ES (lv19discipline - no % ES on rings)
90,64% cyc crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
89,25% spell crit (+9% from assasin mark ~100% crit with 7 pcharges)
342% spell crit multi (i dont have any crit multi jewel)
33500

Never needed Clarity, 1 jewel with +2mana on hit, warlord when i didnt have volls. Also never needed Purities. Did Atziri at 78 with 6k ES and no purity.

CI Tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV

If i had a Taste of hate i would swap it for the Sapphire. Can also swap it for Granite if u feel like need some physical reduction.
NOTE: Maligaro skill setup = CWDT+Immortal Call+Increase duration+Summon ice golem

This are my Jewels

If you don´t go out of mana its because you do wrong cyclones.
Try doing cyclones at max speed: movement flask, +30 movement boots, and close to your feet.
I have tested with my gear (2 elreon rings and 2 mana on hit jewels) and even it´s impossible to sustain without warlords mark.

My gear: Im at 9K+ ES and will get more when I change belt for axium or other...

Spoiler

THANK YOU reimbowl! Finally someone points it out! I really have a hard time on some bosses in Group because my mana reg sucks! 2 mana gain on hit is good enough for like 5 sec bossfights. Ever tried Wasteland, Palace, Colloseum with crazy mods and a culler?

Yeah ofc if I run through like half the room before I click again to change direction with cyclone...

For trashmobs assassins mark and a mana pool of 150 left is good enough, never run out of mana, can stutterstep to maximize DPS on rares, get enough mana back through kills and mana hit jewel.

For bosses in Group I drop assa mark and take Clarity 20, works wonders. Much better is Mana reg on gear, like shield or ring, as a 4th stat on jewels.

Also Alvuimil you advertise 8k ES with insane shield and rlly good helmet and super good ES boots....
Still zero ES%jewels, instead crit chance and other damage mods on jewels.

I run only Attack speed es% and 1 damage mod, preferably Crit Multi ofc.
My discharge is somewhere near 85% crti, cyclone crit capped without maligaros, thats why I wear Attack speed ES gloves. Thus my APS on Cyclone is 4,0+

Maybe now you understand the mana Issues. More APS = More Crits = More Discharges = More damage = more leech = more tankiness = more mana needed.

Feels very smooth unless in Grp with High HP bosses, thats where the mana drain starts.

Even with mana reg gear (another guild member is playing with 30+ mana reg without clarity) you get to the point where cyclone eats your mana.
Whats the point of stutterstepping cyclone? Well Brittle EMP got a bunch of HP in 4+ parties... + his stupid lifereg + crazy mods for waunt/rarity. Do you kill him with just holding down rightclick? I doubt it, especially with enfeeble for packsize....

Im really unsatisfied with the mana sustain as CI, but I see the benefits, Only died to bloodboil + reflect as CI so far, got 8k ES and ele weakness capped resistance.
For smooth playsyle id go so far to even skill mana reg in tree and get mana reg jewels (not droopping any ES or critmulti thought) + gettin specific ES gear with mana reg (or on elreon rings its nice). The "Shaper" node would be a cheap 40% mana reg, ofc 1%life reg wasted, but goin OOM is not cool as CI, no cyclone = no stun immunity.


Regarding Warlords mark:

Assassins Mark feels the saeme on Trash Mobs + gives 1.4x damage
On Curse Immune id have to use Clarity 20 anyway.
I hate to have to rely on a curse to sustain mana.
Dual curse Volls + enlighten 4 + blasphemy + warlods + assassins
+ another slot with enlighten 4 with discipline would be my dream I guess.
Could spend 4 Skillpoints on Reduced mana reserv under vaal pact
Or use enlighten 3 as above discribed and take the 4% node udner CI for 1 point.
Would still need dual curse.
Eleweakness would be more cool. Especially corrupted on Maligaros or smth ofc

Just some theorizing.

My updated gear in the spoiler. Always welcome for some Theorycrafting, Hit me Ingame boys and girls.


IGN: CoCEverything (yeah not creative, whatever x)

@Shamaniax

Yes, if you are smart and look for max AttackSpeed, with flask up you will not sustain mana UNLESS you use warlords, wich is my case, then you can drop LifeLeech from volls for IronWIll in my case, wich lower your cyclone mana to 4 or empower wich is more mana expensive. Then you do more damage, forget about assassims mark damage, feel safer.

Other option I will check later is Axium belt, wich gives mana leech and lot of ES, I think is very good option.

Found this build while looking to bust out a very old templar that I originally ran as a discharger. He only got to level 83 but has some decent gear to start with. Can I run the CI version of this build starting with Templar? What gear besides the Volls pieces are salvageable?

Thanks in advance,

Neurik

where the hell do you guys get these crazy high es shields from?

PLEASE NEWCOMERS, TRY TO SEARCH ON OLD PAGES OF THE THREAD BEFORE ASKING, BECAUSE ITS PROBABLY ALREADY STATED AND ANSWERED: Mana problem for people without Voll's Devotion amulet (page 130 of the thread)

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alvuimil wrote:

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saucefar2 wrote:

The real mana drainer is discharge when combined with life leech, increased critical strikes and cast on crit, it can be a real problem with the life build as you won't have enough mana to discharge as much as the hybrids, the rest will be reserved in mana.

I think it can be solved by investing in either reduced mana reserved jewels or nodes.

As i said over all the thread, USE WARLORD MARK with BLASPHEMY (35% mana reserved), it gives 2% LIFE LEECH and 2% MANA LEECH. This is a total UPGRADE for this build:

Can drop Life Leech from ur 5L and add increased critical strikes
Don't need to run Clarity or +mana on hit jewels
Generate ENDURANCE Charges, boost ur damage and sutain ur CWDT

You only need to use DISCIPLINE (35%) and WARLORD MARK_Blasphemy (35%) = 70% mana reserved. In my case that's 144/402 mana unreserved. This allows u to drop 1 Elreon ring and put a good ring to cap ress or whatever is needed. Can even run a lv 3-4 Clarity if u really need it (that you don't)
In case you still got mana problems u can carry one mana FLASK (instead the life one, CI Version)

You are a bad cycloner then.

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reimbowl wrote:

If you don´t go out of mana its because you do wrong cyclones.
Try doing cyclones at max speed: movement flask, +30 movement boots, and close to your feet.
I have tested with my gear (2 elreon rings and 2 mana on hit jewels) and even it´s impossible to sustain without warlords mark.

My Cyclone with 6L Increased Critical chance is 9 mana. My Aspeed is 4.55 (using blood rage lv 12), i always use quicksilver when cycloning, and i never get out of MANA, clearly u are the one doing it wrong, probably running away from the target. I did a Shrine Piety with 50%+ Life with no mana problem, no clarity running.

And also if u still running out of mana and already have a volls devotion, just use POACHERS MARK (also stated on an old page of this thread). Always can run a mana potion.
And if u still running out of mana after all this:
Quit the build because u cant cyclone.

And again, im running ASSASIN MARK with blasphemy + DISCIPLINE (lv 18 in the screenshot) > 144 mana unreserved.
Only 1 +2 mana on hit jewel
NO Clarity
Blood rage (LV 12, lazy to take the lv 20 from my Voltaxic) for the Aspeed boost + some Frenzy charges

I feel like my dmg or at least my crit. is very low, can someone tell me how to improve it, please ?

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Pvtalocura wrote:

I feel like my dmg or at least my crit. is very low, can someone tell me how to improve it, please ?

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1st. If you are running -Elemental equilibrium- "destroy" that dagger, that will proc EE against discharge main source of damage (Lighting)
2nd. Get an amulet with Critical strike chance + critical multiplier
3rd. Buy a shield with Spellcrit
4th. Improve ur jewels, more global crit chance.

I can't see your tree so i can't help there