2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

Going to be honest and say it; Hybrid with like 2k Life and even with positive Chaos Resistance just seems total and utter garbage to me. Go into any high end map that has any mob that does chaos damage and you're just going to get dumpstered on every time.

Go CI, get an 8k+ ES, profit.

With solid gear for CI my current stats while using Assasins Mark, full charges and flasks up are -

8321 ES
93.42 Discharge Crit Chance
103.75 Cyclone Crit Chance (100 percent)
416 Discharge Crit Multi
47770 Discharges (sacrificed 250 ES for a bit more damage) could get it over 50k with better gear

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saxisa wrote:

Still just getting wiped out on a regular basis. Managed to get some chaos res, but now anything spiky just one-shots me. What do I need to work on with my build/gear?

Maybe lvl66 is just too low? Are there specific gear items or things I should be looking for?

Drop Rat's nest, Saffel Frame and that belt, get a high ES helm / shiel, and a belt with ES+HP, that will increase ur survability by a mile.

A proper cwdt will help against physical damage too (cwdt+immortal call+inc duration)

Insane build yes but sadly also nerfbait for whiners alike.

Expect this to be changed really soon.

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saxisa wrote:

Still just getting wiped out on a regular basis. Managed to get some chaos res, but now anything spiky just one-shots me. What do I need to work on with my build/gear?

Maybe lvl66 is just too low? Are there specific gear items or things I should be looking for?

Had the exact problem and just switched to CI. Got almost 6k ES. Just make sure one of your pots can unfreeze you.

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Perrydtf wrote:

Going to be honest and say it; Hybrid with like 2k Life and even with positive Chaos Resistance just seems total and utter garbage to me. Go into any high end map that has any mob that does chaos damage and you're just going to get dumpstered on every time.

Go CI, get an 8k+ ES, profit.

With solid gear for CI my current stats while using Assasins Mark, full charges and flasks up are -

8321 ES
93.42 Discharge Crit Chance
103.75 Cyclone Crit Chance (100 percent)
416 Discharge Crit Multi
47770 Discharges (sacrificed 250 ES for a bit more damage) could get it over 50k with better gear

Mind linking tree / gear? Characters are private.

Sure. Keep in mind I have fairly strong jewels that give me a bit more ES, some Resists as well as the usual damage mods mixed in. But still could get another 6 percent ES on my rings if I got some better RNG as I've wasted like 8ex trying to get higher ES% rolls on them.
*Edit* make that 8412 ES got 19 and 20 percent rolled on them.

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Perrydtf wrote:

Sure. Keep in mind I have fairly strong jewels that give me a bit more ES, some Resists as well as the usual damage mods mixed in. But still could get another 6 percent ES on my rings if I got some better RNG as I've wasted like 8ex trying to get higher ES% rolls on them.
*Edit* make that 8412 ES got 19 and 20 percent rolled on them.

Gear

Passives

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBx4NfA5IES8RUBGWFdcbJRzcIG4i9Cj6KgsqOCsKLKYsvyzhLdIy0TQKNbk3ZjwFPV9BlkVHRnFHBklRSbFLrkyzUDBSU1ZjV8ld8l9qX7BgQ2NDZJ1mVGwLbRluPW-ecFJwVncHf8aCEIKbgwmExYV7hX2GrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkNaTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36EvpyusZq6ztAy4k7k-voC-isBmwzrKSsrT0B_Q0ND118_Ydtlb217b1N-K37DpAuq66-7r9ewY7DjvfO-I7-vw1fId8uH5Nw==

So you are running Blasphemy, discipline and Clarity? whats your mana pool?

Do you use mana gain on hit jewels?

Was bleeding ever a problem to you? (like maps with vulnerability and high dmg mods, so your ES just flies away?

Why not reskill Dagger nodes on right side of tree and get the jewel right beneath?
with crit strikes you should get to 95% crit anway? dual diamonds rings with crit+es multimodded and a 21/20 CoC should do their thing?

Is being shadow a thing bc of upcoming ascendancy extra Shadow tree with crit?
(I play shadow, sure I am off some effective points, still Ele dmg isnt that bad)

EDIT regarding auras: made smth like this https://poe.mikelat.com/#kUNF/VzF=U7lh

But this would stop me doin hard regen without dropping blasphemy and gettin a mana pot.


More EDIT:

Benefits of CI:

No-Chaos dmg,
drop chaos res,
get res cap easier with higher ES gear
8k ES pool as Effective life
may get more dmg bc of no chaos res needed, benefits more from ES% on rings (bc CI ES node)
trio is easier, if its not 1shot anyway with either hybrid or CI, not a problem to evade puddles if you are experienced anyway


Cons
Mana sustain: either clarity +2x elighten (meh uneffective), mana gain hit jewels (1 enough for single target?)
STUNS, hit a rock, stick, any shit on map and you stop cyclone, 1 life makes you vulnerable to added cold damage and crit maps) Sure you never should stand still, but at sometime you just WILL, mostly bc of map layout.
expensive to run 3 auras if you like to have rlly high max res (uber atziri/ hard reflect mobs) bc enlighten lvl 4


Benefits of Hybrid:
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EDITED: One Huge benefit I felt, with the drawback of having a life flask:

Any not counter-leechable damage
-onespire-talisman debuff
-gettin hit from out of your range
-reflect damage

Can be countered effectively by using your Life Flask(surgeons ofc)!
Got hit hard? Cannot leech on reflect pack?
Bonespiered and no mobs to leech?
Anything else where I cannot manually recharge my ES? (not gettin outfight ofc, no es recharge)

POP A LIFE FLASK, having 2k+ life left for regen by flask instead of seeing your ES drop and cant do anything about it bc no mobs left (all 1hit ehhh)
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Str gives free effective life and isnt wasted by CI node
more STR= can run purity of fire, higher CWDT setup/more duration
Str nodes in tree (discipline and training / blood siphon /devotion) are same cost as CI and double dip life and str.
having the dream of over 2k life makes you have rlly less problems with stun. I lack 2 nodes and get to 2k, no life on my gear but 35str belt.
Not losing the jewel slot next to melding for same effective life (nearly same, on CI its multiplied by CI ES node ofc)

Can run vertex, up tp 340ES helmet, free 700 Evasion, chaos res, no enlighten lvl 4, no purities 21 needed. max res and possible lvl 22 discipline for. (max res + flask rlly make reflect packs easier and i guess all atziri runs, especially uber)

could run same setup as posted before: enlighten, assamark (blasphemy)+discilpline. low clarity in a other slot, enlighten/or higher manapool (CI benefits here more i guess, since INT gives Es and mana, id always run clarity on life and have an easy time on hard regen)

Can run clarity on life, makes it possible to run 3 Auras on Mana, 2 purites and discilpine for atziri/uber/reflect, or drop 1 purity in favour of assassins mark, or drop 2 for as above posted herald of ice setup (to drop cold dmg on dagger).


CONS:

CHAOS DAMAGE! Fucks you up...
Deadhand talisman = RIP, (chaos flask helps)
desecrated ground is annoying for moving around (assamark alone gives me enough to not even feel the ground in fight)
Yeah well Chaos mobs, but i NEVER died to and snake nor constructs, NEVER bc of their chaos damage, it feels so low i refill any hits i get with assamark or 1hit them before gettin hit.


Regarding gear:

High ES gear for CI is as expensive as ES gear with chaos res
Vertex is a cheap super nice item for hybrid and spares money if you wanna run enlighten 4
Go CI if you hate purities, res cap without chaos res is easy.


My only issue is still:

STUN and MANA SUSTAIN as CI, if I tested myself enough with CI, no purities, maybe mana hit jewels I may stay CI, so far I stay hybrid, no problems there other than DEADHAND Talisman! (GRRRR!)




I died more often to standing still due to sticks (think more of a problem as CI)
more often through reflect (purities help here then!)

than I ever died to CHAOS damage. Thats why I dont rlly know if its worth going CI just for that. Maybe if I get a 500ES shield and 400+ ES helm and 200ES boots bc of the CI ES node multiplying it.

Hey guys, i'm rolling this build and right now I only got a 5l chest, I wonder if I should get a devotion's or a 6l chest first. I'm running blasphemy + warlord's mark btw.

I am just running the two Elreon rings and clarity and I don't run out of mana ever it barely dips below like 30 mana even on single target. My mana pool is like 48 or something after all those auras on. Probably something I should do to be honest hadn't really thought about it removing those nodes since I'm over crit capped on cyclone. I haven't honestly had any issues with any map I've done so far, earlier I linked a village ruin clear with boss damage mods and I cleared them easy as. 13k+ ES with Vaal discipline up is amazing.

I'd personally buy a devotion because it's survivability as well as damage. Where as all you gain is a higher crit chance with a 6l and no defensive bonuses.

why is cyclone lvl1?