Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Why is Vitality such a end-game summoner aura? - Forum

" themousemaster wrote: And the extra boost from generosity, at least in my Summoner's case. Anyway, if Vitality is best only on a summoner and on RF builds... is that really a problem? Hatred isn't great on an Elemental Buzzsaw either, and determination is pretty poor for a Sporker. that is not a very good comparison. Vitality is at best ok in summoner builds and really is only necessary for rf builds. where nearly any physical build can use hatred. and determination has always been weaker than grace in most cases due to ir and how base armor on gear is almost an after thought. but it is still very nice for any armor heavy build. they cover a much broader range of builds. atleast vitality has the decency to only be 40% reserved.	Posted by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Sep 15, 2014, 12:41:22 PM Quote this Post
" Emphasy wrote: Actually it is useful for most builds that don't already have a lot of regen-nodes. However the thing is, what would you sacrifice for it? One of the chars that could use it would be a ranger that relies on Evasion and has a good HP-Pool. Rangers don't have good access to HP-reg so it would be beneficial. However Vitality reserves 40%. A must have for such chars is Hatred and Herald of Ash. That means with a 21 reduced mana 60% of your mana-pool is already gone. If you have to choose between Vitality or Purity of Elements the later always wins because it frees up resistances on items. And if you have perfect gear you might still prefer Herald of Ice over Vitality. So Vitality simply loses against other options or is just chosen by chars who can run so many Auras that there is no reason to not run Vitality. Agree. They should just make it a 25% buff like tempest shield and herald of ash. It's not worth using as a 40% aura.	Posted by kompaniet#2874 on Sep 15, 2014, 1:19:18 PM Quote this Post
" Saltychipmunk wrote: " themousemaster wrote: And the extra boost from generosity, at least in my Summoner's case. Anyway, if Vitality is best only on a summoner and on RF builds... is that really a problem? Hatred isn't great on an Elemental Buzzsaw either, and determination is pretty poor for a Sporker. that is not a very good comparison. Vitality is at best ok in summoner builds and really is only necessary for rf builds. where nearly any physical build can use hatred. and determination has always been weaker than grace in most cases due to ir and how base armor on gear is almost an after thought. but it is still very nice for any armor heavy build. they cover a much broader range of builds. atleast vitality has the decency to only be 40% reserved. Since you have glossed over my point, then, I will restate it: Not every aura has to be as ubiquitous as each other. Vit has it's use. determination, apparently, does as well, and Hatred has more builds it works under, but far from "mandatory for all of em". My group mates always seem to love having me standing nearby, so I guess it works for my setup? No problem with Vit here. #1 rule of official forum boards of every video game ever: use the forums to relay info, gather suggestions, or the rare narrow-focused Poll; but NEVER as "feedback". #2 rule: Never say the #1 rule in an official capacity. Let some guy on the forums say it, leaving yourself plausible deniability.	Posted by themousemaster#2051 on Sep 15, 2014, 4:33:57 PM Quote this Post
oh i got your point very well , however you also glossed over mine in that just because something can be useful does not mean it is in a good spot. sure hatred is optional and sure vitality is optional but one you don't particularly feel bad for running on any physical build , where as one you have to take a real long look at your build to justify it. They aren't on the same level , not by a long shot.	Posted by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Sep 16, 2014, 8:00:28 AM Quote this Post
" Saltychipmunk wrote: They aren't on the same level , not by a long shot. I 100% agree with that statement. I'm stating that said situation is not a problem that needs GGG attention in any way shape or form, whereas this thread seems to say it should be on the PTS priority list. #1 rule of official forum boards of every video game ever: use the forums to relay info, gather suggestions, or the rare narrow-focused Poll; but NEVER as "feedback". #2 rule: Never say the #1 rule in an official capacity. Let some guy on the forums say it, leaving yourself plausible deniability. Last edited by themousemaster#2051 on Sep 16, 2014, 9:00:58 AM	Posted by themousemaster#2051 on Sep 16, 2014, 8:59:50 AM Quote this Post