[1.2.] Serge's Ultimate Ball Lightning (3 Versions: EB-MoM-AA / hybrid HP-ES Crit / CI Crit!)

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hatoblue wrote:

@Sojs

It is viable but you need GG gear to pull it off. Under ideal circumstances (dual void battery etc.) you can maybe get 40% crit chance with 8 power charges, which is passable with a bit of cast speed. But you'd have to sacrifice one of your links for PCoC or something.

You could comfortably reach 26% crit chance with passives/Maligaro's/spell dagger. Set up a second link with Ice Spear+Echo+PCOC+GMP and you're good to go. You'd reach 40% with 7 power charges, not to mention the extra 9% that can be added with Crit Weakness. I'm currently planning a BL build using crit and three dragons, should be interesting to see how it turns out.

EDIT: @Serge: just had a look at your updated skill tree and noticed you have't picked up any Dex nodes? I guess you could get all of your required dex on gloves/jewellery but would make gearing a bit pedantic. I'd honestly pick up Agility and Alacrity for +60 Dex, and maybe run Atziri's Foible in the amulet slot to get some nice mana/regen and reduced requirements?

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hatoblue wrote:

Direct quote from ZiggyD: "lightning strikes once every 200 ms and each target cannot be hit by a lightning strike more often than this." To me that means that multiple balls cannot strike the same target more often than 200 ms, but will have to test it once the patch hits.

@Relidar here's my planned tree: http://poeurl.com/ySZqJOG . Still WIP, if projectile damage works with it I can grab ballistic mastery and maybe point blank.

Thw quote used is 200ms per volley i believe. Also, go back and rewatch the video, you can clearly see when he has 2 balls on the screen both are hitting the same enemies at once (visible after he drops the the lmp gem).

I think it will be similar to LA where the damage dealt is only lightning, spell, elemental and the other tags only augment how the spell interacts with things, not its damage.

With 2-3 fast casts and large aoe it'll clear big packs fine I suspect. It will obviously warrant testing though.

Here's my version: 114

I know it's a 114 points, but it picks up a LOT of hp nodes (290%) so you have the option to pick those up when you feel that you need them.

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Hojirozame wrote:

EDIT: @Serge: just had a look at your updated skill tree and noticed you have't picked up any Dex nodes? I guess you could get all of your required dex on gloves/jewellery but would make gearing a bit pedantic. I'd honestly pick up Agility and Alacrity for +60 Dex, and maybe run Atziri's Foible in the amulet slot to get some nice mana/regen and reduced requirements?

True, I'll probably add that, wasn't thinking about since it's so common to take those anyway.

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Z3roSh0t wrote:

Thw quote used is 200ms per volley i believe. Also, go back and rewatch the video, you can clearly see when he has 2 balls on the screen both are hitting the same enemies at once (visible after he drops the the lmp gem).

My thoughts exactly, that's why I added LMP to the mix, otherwise clearing big packs would probably be an issue.

So I tested out the skill a bit tonight. It seems like each cast has its own 200ms sec timer and multiple balls indeed can hit the same target at a time. Also, increased projectile damage does affect the damage of BL, but not area damage. This means it's probably worth it to get cast speed on the tree so that you can have as many simultaneous BL strikes on a target. So a good build might end up looking pretty similar to an arc build. Increased radius passives will also be useful for this purpose. Still need more time to level up my BL Gem and see what links are good with it.

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hatoblue wrote:

So I tested out the skill a bit tonight. It seems like each cast has its own 200ms sec timer and multiple balls indeed can hit the same target at a time. Also, increased projectile damage does affect the damage of BL, but not area damage. This means it's probably worth it to get cast speed on the tree so that you can have as many simultaneous BL strikes on a target. So a good build might end up looking pretty similar to an arc build. Increased radius passives will also be useful for this purpose. Still need more time to level up my BL Gem and see what links are good with it.

Yep, and I'm going to try a 6L setup of:

BL - light pen - empower - spell echo - AOE - faster cast/lmp/LL

I need to get my witch to level 75 to use my doryani's (currently 38). I'm planning to use clarity+tempest shield+purity of lightning for auras (possibly drop purity and use discipline, depending on how big of an issue reflect is through MOM.

Planned tree (110):


It's a bit light on the life, but my block chances should be something like 65/55 or 65/60, which when combined with the MOM+AA should make me pretty damn tanky. I should be able to reach ~4-4.5k life depending on life rolls on shield, belt, helm, and ring.

This seems to be working out really nicely. I will update the build as soon as I do some more tests and level the gems a bit. Current tree:

Full build up! Video being uploaded right now.

i think add lighting dmg is way better than faster casting 10% extra chance to shock dmg effectiveness 30% and if 1 target can be hit 5 times per sec thats a 1.5 dmg of the gem + grab elemental dmg nodes and doryanis and your dps should be a lot higher.