The Actual Problem With Map-Only Uniques

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Jack89 wrote:

I don't understand how some may think that a player doing Lunaris/Dominus runs over and over should find the same items of a player doing a really harder content.

And even casuals appreciate challenges.

Casual ≠ whiner

Because access to that "harder content" isn't limited by difficulty but rather time spent on the game (currency to keep rolling maps that keep dropping maps at those ilvls). Sure, difficulty plays a role in that but not nearly as much.

lets make it short:

Problem is people are jealous like a small kid that sees another kid with a way bigger lolipop and starts to cry.

Please you casuals already destroyed games like D3. Stay there dont ruin this game too

ps: i am one of the other casuals, not game destroying casual!

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tadl wrote:

lets make it short:

Problem is people are jealous like a small kid that sees another kid with a way bigger lolipop and starts to cry.

Please you casuals already destroyed games like D3. Stay there dont ruin this game too

A casual apparently attacking his own kind and I thought I saw everything.

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Peenk wrote:

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Dem0nic wrote:

Game should have rewards for people that spend more time into the game, its that simple if... And if it would drop in any lvl people would be qquing about people being so lucky getting this there etc.. If the game does not reward people for playing more then 6+ hours a day it would make the game casual
... Casusl...
CASUAL...

me and many others do not want the game to be casual... The game is still enjoyable if played casually tho but the chance of you getting a lot of BiS is low then but is that not fine since you are just casually playing the game ? I think so..

if you want a game that is casual i would recomend that you check out some of the great games on both facebook and miniclip.com - free tip, np.

Yeah because time = difficulty.. Be gone you elitist idiot.

what ?
Im not one of the top of the ladder or anything, but I do like to play a game were playtime put in the game gives rewards for it, not only "PRAY TO THE RNG GODS" I know there is still a lot of rng involved in it but atleast you have to put time in to the game to get to that rng pool :) not just kill a merciless piety and pray before checking the loot.

Edit: and ye for most poeple that spend time doing something they get better at it :)

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True_Apathy wrote:

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tadl wrote:

lets make it short:

Problem is people are jealous like a small kid that sees another kid with a way bigger lolipop and starts to cry.

Please you casuals already destroyed games like D3. Stay there dont ruin this game too

A casual apparently attacking his own kind and I thought I saw everything.

Its the internet :)


Funy how people consider themselves casuals when they are not casuals. They are console gamers. And create console gamers threads like this one and destroying PC games.

This post was a good point that has been way too sidetracked.

Rares should be able to be better items than uniques. That's now how the game currently works. I don't usually bother picking up rare items.

Biggest offender: rarity or quantity on unique items. Andvarius is the biggest offender, but there are plenty of other ones.

It's this horrible spiral that you don't see until you have played for quite a while. Uniques with magic find are the best way to find items, which means you need a build that can use them, which means that items for those slots are worth nothing.

The biggest issue is magic find, but uniques being better than rares doesn't help.

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tadl wrote:

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True_Apathy wrote:

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tadl wrote:

lets make it short:

Problem is people are jealous like a small kid that sees another kid with a way bigger lolipop and starts to cry.

Please you casuals already destroyed games like D3. Stay there dont ruin this game too

A casual apparently attacking his own kind and I thought I saw everything.

Its the internet :)


Funy how people consider themselves casuals when they are not casuals. They are console gamers. And create console gamers threads like this one and destroying PC games.

pretty sure somewhere in the bible it was mentioned that casual and console gamers are the source of all evil..
Source: chris

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Aelloon wrote:

I think this gets all the right aspects other than the tl;dr.

Hah. You think? I may have never had enough currency at any given time to make a big ticket purchase, but I never saved my currency either, because apparently they weren't worth saving for then. What makes you believe I think they're worth saving for now?

Yeah, I personally am fine with it. The group I spoke for, however, is almost definitely not fine with it. Sorry about that, map buddies.

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Dracobane wrote:

This post was a good point that has been way too sidetracked.

Rares should be able to be better items than uniques. That's now how the game currently works. I don't usually bother picking up rare items.

Biggest offender: rarity or quantity on unique items. Andvarius is the biggest offender, but there are plenty of other ones.

It's this horrible spiral that you don't see until you have played for quite a while. Uniques with magic find are the best way to find items, which means you need a build that can use them, which means that items for those slots are worth nothing.

The biggest issue is magic find, but uniques being better than rares doesn't help.

hmm yee, I do however have a rarity gem linked to a spell with culling strike that I use on rare mobs/uniques, and I do know I can get more from gear but that would mean I would probably farm a little slower so seems to come out on the same spot.

I might be terrible wrong, but my drop chances are decent atm so I'm good, wouldnt hate having a currency % modifier tho !!! OH BABY

edit: and a currency rarity bonus OMOMOM

The distinction in casual and non-casual gamers is nonsensical and comes across as childish behaviour from those who try to use it as an argument.

A good game is designed in a way that it caters to all players the same as that benefits the company producing the game the most.

Anyone saying things like "lol filthy casuals..." disqualifies themselves immediatly for any future argument. Your sense of elitism is way off and you should rethink what you are even saying there.

I am not sure why "hardcore" players feel it takes away anything from them when everyone is able to access all kinds of game content.
The jealousy is very much not on the end of those "casuals", it is in fact the other way around. A sort of protective jealousy if you will.
"Hardcore" players feel like something is taken away from their pride once everyone gets access to what they have, even though they de facto do not lose anything.