Chris: ALT-F4 LEGIT STRAT

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Xavderion wrote:

Babycore tears in 3..2..1..

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Melkrow wrote:

Known fact.

Good system.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

Funny, so Alt+F4'ers are actually making the game harder for characters that do not. That is, if he's not trolling.

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

If you take away alt F4, or even worse, portals in boss fights, you have to make them significantly easier, there can't be those super dangerous moments where you can easily die if you don't react quickly.

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Kahryl wrote:

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

If you take away alt F4, or even worse, portals in boss fights, you have to make them significantly easier, there can't be those super dangerous moments where you can easily die if you don't react quickly.

I know right. Because God forbid you might lose if you fail a test of skill. That's not what games are about!

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wftico wrote:

Wow, this is dumb.

One the one hand, I admit the honesty of the developers. On the other hand...
The Designconcepts are really fucking wierd.

Who the hell likes bosses who just onehit you to almost no life? Especially
if you can't even avoid it? This is really your sense of a great boss fight?

I mean the Dominus Fight for example is just mind blowingly stupid!
You've got to portal in and out thousands of times, and if you go in with
a random party, at the end of it, you end up with complete different people,
because everyone leaves because the fight takes fucking 20 minutes or whatever.

Another example of just plain bad boss design is brutus (i think he is called that way).
He basically one hits you down to no life at all, pulls you with his chain CONSTANTLY
without a damn cooldown.... the fight is SOOOO stupid.

Bosses should have special attacks which do tons of damage, but you NEED to be able
to avoid those! Else it's retarded. The only good boss GGG has designed is probably Vaal.

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BRavich wrote:

The core issue here seems to be the way that Chris defines "interesting" and "difficult"



The bottom line is that he created a game which he wanted to be *difficult*, and then he implemented a flask and life leech system that makes it incredibly easy to top off your health in an instant.

Additionally, he wanted to make PoE a game with very simple mechanics. You click to move, you click to attack. The game revolves around using the same skill many times in a row.

Because the actual mechanics of the gameplay are so simplistic, they cant be used to create difficulty, unless you consider moving out of the way of a Vaal smash difficult.



That leaves one option: in order for enemies to pose a threat in a system where you can top off your health in a split second, enemies need to be able to remove large amounts of your health in a split second.

But then go ahead and throw into the mix a wide variety of build options, and subsequently, a wide range of defensive values. What might take 75% of one player's health will instantly kill another player.

And the kicker: enemies can crit. Get unlucky and you take massive burst of damage. You survive the attack 90% of the time, and the other 10% you die instantly. You're fine in the midst of a crowd of enemies but then you get unlucky and take 3 crits in a row, resulting in your death.





Frankly, aiming for "difficulty" within the system that GGG set up is plainly bad game design.