Cold to Fire and Spell/Elemental Damage
As stated in the wiki, converted damage is increased by modifiers of the basetype and targettype.
Which means Cold to Fire gets modifiers from both "Increased Fire Damage" and "Increased Cold Damage". But how exactly does it interact with "increased Elemental Damage" and "increased Spell Damage" if I choose to link Ice Spear with Cold to fire? Does it affect both? |
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" You only get the effect from each one once. You don't get a 'double up' from spell dmg or ele dmg using cold to fire. Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756 Last edited by dudiobugtron#4663 on Sep 11, 2013, 4:25:58 AM
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Thx, good to know.
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Right, just like IR and Leather and Steel cluster.
If you are interested in why, here's why. You do 100 base cold damage and your cold to fire gem converts 60% to fire, that's 40 points of base damage with an ingame tag 'cold' and 60 points with 'cold, fire'. You got some fire damage bonus, some cold and elemental. 'Cold' part is affected by cold and elemental, 'cold, fire' part is affected by all three mods. With calculations done like that each mod counts only once for each damage segment so only once for all of the damage. Calculating the whole cold damage, then converting it to fire and applying the mods relevant to fire again might be intuitive on some level but that's, fortunately, not the way this game does things. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Sep 11, 2013, 7:10:30 AM
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from the testing I have done it applies the spell/cold damage bonuses converts then applies the fire damage, testing done with 18% cold and 20% elemental and i think 12% fire damage and the dps went up by a noticeable amount when applying a 0 quality cold to fire, cant be sure on the elem damage applying only once or if it adds the fire portion of the increase after the conversion we would really need a dev response on that one sadly, that or some relatively in depth checking.
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" We had a truckload of developer responses on elemental conversion, it's calculated as in my previous post. Not a big secret anyway, you have in-depth calculations on wiki and it's probably listed in some form in official mechanics thread too. Of course you saw an increase, that's what the gem is for. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► |
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Give me your base damage, applicable modifiers and Cold to Fire gem level and I can show it's working as Raics described :)
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