I don't want to lose the ability to trade

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NBK12632#4524 wrote:

Why do I feel like GGG is moving into abusive tactics now?
Because they are taking away a feature players previously paid money for, in order to access the new paid feature. This is the same line Destiny 2 crossed when they started removing content players had paid for.
I have 1 trade tab, like I imagine many people do. I bought it to support the game and engage with the community. I was very excited for my items to sell offline as well, it brought me back for this season. Now I understand how wrong I was.

If I want to use the new trade feature, I have to permanently give up my only trade tab, with no way to ever get it back.

I will lose my ability to trade with other players in order to use a new feature that sells items without any player engagement. I will be losing a feature of the game I paid for, and will have to pay more to get it back.
This is 1 step short of removing the paid feature with no option to get it back, and to people who can't afford to buy additional tabs right now, it's effectively the same. Give up what you paid for, or give up on using the new feature.
Please make the choice per item, not the whole tab. Let me choose individual items in my current trade tab and set them to sell through the merchant. Same rules, same system, just don't take away a paid feature to do it.

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NBK12632#4524 wrote:

Why do I feel like GGG is moving into abusive tactics now?
Because they are taking away a feature players previously paid money for, in order to access the new paid feature. This is the same line Destiny 2 crossed when they started removing content players had paid for.
I have 1 trade tab, like I imagine many people do. I bought it to support the game and engage with the community. I was very excited for my items to sell offline as well, it brought me back for this season. Now I understand how wrong I was.

If I want to use the new trade feature, I have to permanently give up my only trade tab, with no way to ever get it back.

I will lose my ability to trade with other players in order to use a new feature that sells items without any player engagement. I will be losing a feature of the game I paid for, and will have to pay more to get it back.
This is 1 step short of removing the paid feature with no option to get it back, and to people who can't afford to buy additional tabs right now, it's effectively the same. Give up what you paid for, or give up on using the new feature.
Please make the choice per item, not the whole tab. Let me choose individual items in my current trade tab and set them to sell through the merchant. Same rules, same system, just don't take away a paid feature to do it.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

So much to argue with here, just going to go straight into a list format:

1. GGG did not take away anything. They have left both trade options fully functional.

2. Having 1 tab is ridiculous limitation to put on yourself. I understand people who are unable/unwilling to put any amount of real money into the game, and I understand people who buy whatever they need for the game. But this in the middle choice of, "I will spend 6 dollars, but not 8 dollars, thats too much" is absurd.

2.1: Pay the $1.50 on whatever it cost to upgrade a normal stash tab to a premium, then convert your purchased premium into a merchant tab.

2.1.1: And before you go on some rant about how not everyone is privileged to just buy tabs, let me go ahead and say thats a BS argument, just being here means you are in a relative place of privilege.

a) You are playing a PC game, you are already in the privileged category. Gaming is not in Maslow's Hierarchy

b) Presumably you are playing on a gaming PC purchased sometime within the last 10 years, and paying for internet that can support an online game, and have the free time in your life to use to play the game. Again, you are already in the privileged category.


3. This backlash at GGG for charging for new things is even more absurd. You want to play a free game, for decades, with new content every 3 months. And then you also want to complain when the content is late, when your favorite build is nerfed, when features are missing, etc. These people do this for a living. GGG is a company. Yes, the game is F2P, but the company does have to continue to exist. The fact that they manage to keep it F2P as it has evolved over the years is a miracle, and people still complain about the system that enables that to begin with. Mind blowing, really.


/end rant

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

I do see where OP is coming from. If everyone moves to using the instant trade market, it means, in effect, the in-person trade is not used, even if the functionality is there. From what I'm seeing, a large amount of trading has gone onto the market.

I have actually missed some of the player to player interaction a bit. Overall though, I think the implementation of the trade market has been very positive, which is why I think it is being heavily used.

I think they probably should of just given a single merc tab to players who had bought the premium trade tabs previously, just to avoid any aggravation and the mess of swapping tabs. I also see where the others are coming from, POE has be unrivaled in content value for payment than any other game I know of in my opinion. Players need to keep that in mind when GGG are monetizing things, particularly when a lot of the game development has been through big supporters.