Righteous fire spell dmg% now based off MAX #hp
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1% more spell damage per 100 hp.
After hitting 80% more spell damage diminishing returns kick in. Hopefully will nerf cheesy Shavronnes no-disadvantage 2.5x damage builds Last edited by H4xolotl#7857 on Apr 23, 2013, 6:16:54 AM
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you describe a 50 exalt build as cheesy wtf ?
seriously your threads get more retarded with each passing day https://poe-ssf.herokuapp.com/. Join the fun. SSF HC Legacy Witch Lvl 53 Last edited by ventiman#1405 on Apr 23, 2013, 8:15:39 AM
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I preferred this thread when it was just a full stop.
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" So disappointing how someone who uses the forums so much is a dick. Free (pretty much) CI and more than double damage with 1 item is cheesy. When i say free i mean in terms of gameplay, not ingame price which is what actually matters Besides the theme of RF is sacrificing your life for power. If your running 500 hp and 7000 ES it obviously isnt much of a sacrifice and you shouldnt get such as massive bonus. " WOW this is genius! By making a general insult to this thread theres no way for me to make a counterargument! Give this man a cookie! Last edited by H4xolotl#7857 on Apr 23, 2013, 6:21:30 AM
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well you know this Chest was invented/implemented specificly to make low-Life builds viable?
and that low-Life is the only reasonable way to use RF? this Chest was implemented EXACTLY for this, the devs knew it (or at least they had to) all thats missing now is an item to make full-HP RF viable for its aoe-dmg-component, and this will be OP too... |
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Free CI? Could have sworn CI was called chaos immunity, shav doesn't do that, you still need chaos res.
The theme of RF is however it's being used. Invalesco had his build going right when OB started before shav was introduced. If the devs didn't want that possible they could have easily changed RF knowing the unique they were about to introduce. There's nothing cheesy about it. It's a very expensive piece, the user still has to worry about chaos damage, doesn't get the 4x% ES behind CI and also doesn't get the potential of an additional 500 ES a normal ES/CI user would. Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th
Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063 Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856 |
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Touché, my friend. Touché.
Let's be serious. These would be my arguments: 1) Shavronne's wrappings is a very expensive item. Surely you've earned so much power having spent the 20 exalted orbs to get one (even more if you wish to 5 or 6 link it). 2) Shavronne's wrappings is powerful, indeed. However, that power is not granted without a cost. By this is don't mean the monetary cost of purchasing one or crafting one yourself; I mean the cost of defense. Firstly, yes, chaos damage can't bypass energy shield, but this is truly useless if you have low chaos resist. Your energy shield may as well not be there if you take chaos damage from an enemy in a map. Secondly, you can have a maximum of around 600 ES with this particular armour when it's at 20%. A significant trade-off when there are chest pieces out there with more than double that number. Lastly, it only offers you a maximum of 40 lightning resistance. Again, a significant trade-off relative to tri-resist pieces available. In counter argument to your rebuttal, running 500 life is easy. But 7,000 energy shield is hardly easy to acquire with all the items in possession. Further, Shavronne's wrappings (as discussed above) is actually a LIABILITY when it comes to stacking ES. May I have my cookie now? |
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" Theres a lot of other benefits low lifers can get. RF's 1.8+ multiplier is over the top when stacked with Pain attunement, free auras and Wondertrap. Taking RF bonus away wont make low life builds unviable. Even then it will be stronger than a normal caster. " But the important thing is that chaos dosent pierce your ES. Everyone needs chaos res anyway so its not much a big deal, compared to when you were getting 1 hit by chaos damage Getting so much damage boost should be balanced with increased risk or another penalty in gameplay Instead we have a (ingame) pay to win item. |
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" Definitely not a big cut in defence as you think... Best Es chest possible right now has 1000 es and ~80 res If you can afford Shavrones you can afford gear like: 600 es sheild. 400 es helmet. 120 es gloves. 120 es boots. 1000 es chest total: 2200 es With Shavrones and same other gear; 1800 es. Only ~18% drop You chop of 20% of your ES for 2.5 X damage :( Last edited by H4xolotl#7857 on Apr 23, 2013, 6:54:56 AM
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/332150/highlight/
to give you a slight idea what insane gear do you need just to make it viable in hc and hc is the standard like it or not noone cares about 40k dfeault firetraps or shit like that the shavronnes low life build will be only available for a fraction of the poe population even akira just managed to get 8.6k es which isnt much at all i run 10kes on my necro 7k with tabula rasa and 7k is scary as fuck sometimes if you manage to get that build together and runining you should be rewarded with awesome dps reagarding how long it takes for a normal person to get the gear https://poe-ssf.herokuapp.com/. Join the fun. SSF HC Legacy Witch Lvl 53 Last edited by ventiman#1405 on Apr 23, 2013, 8:24:17 AM
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