Explosions, Heralds and item rarity / item quantity support

I have those 4 gems on my herald of ash only bv autobomber.
Enhance, item quantity and item rarity, herald of ash

most kills come from the explosion+herald chaining

the support gem says it will work with herald of ash, i'm not sure about this tho. technically it should since my damage comes from explosions (chest mod) + herald phys as extra. it should proc


my question is:
does item rarity / item quantity work with herald skills ?

how does this work ?



I just read this on the wiki

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Support gems: Any support gems (with the exception of
Enhance Support
) linked to the Herald of Ash will only affect the burn damage caused by the debuff, not the global modifiers. For example, linking
Item Rarity Support
to Herald of Ash will only apply rarity bonus to the enemies who die from the burn damage caused by Herald of Ash ignition.

so the item rarity and quantity only apply to kills caused by the burning damage.

most monsters are oneshot from the explosion + herald of ash buff effect, but they should all also get burning damage applied to them.

i'm not sure

It does work with Heralds, but only when the linked Herald directly kills something. It has no interaction with kills from any other source, such as your explosions. Since you have Ash going, the IIQ/IIR will only apply to kills made by the overkill burning.

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aggromagnet wrote:

It does work with Heralds, but only when the linked Herald directly kills something. It has no interaction with kills from any other source, such as your explosions. Since you have Ash going, the IIQ/IIR will only apply to kills made by the overkill burning.

so it probably won't do anything since the explosion oneshots everything.




its a really weird situation, the herald has about the same if not more aoe than the explosion, so the burning damage is applied to surrounding enemies. but explosion damage is also applied.

if explosion counts as the kill, there is no iiq/iir bonus
if herald dot counts as kill there is.

it is not clear to me wether the explosion deals the killing blow or the herald dot