[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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3DmaxD3 wrote:

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Jacob_28348 wrote:

Hey deadandlivin, what weapon is "devestator" referring to in the POB for AG?

Maybe Kingmaker

I'm confused about this as well. the pob has a shield on so i dont see how it can be the kingmaker since it is 2 handed.

already given up on the league Dead?

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Benville wrote:

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Mezelluf wrote:

I was using frostbearers as my 6l, +2helm+hypo, 2 wands +2 level, tons of dmg on my belt/jewels. and frostbearers just sucked for bossing/clearing t16 encounters and hard mobs, switched back to Primals and im having a breeze don't die as often (i have 0 block just full dmg and res cap, still running Occultist but will switch to necro tomorrow I'm crafting my AG gear and already bought a few Kingmakers to flip in a few days) which would be a nice dmg boost.

followed the original gem links n stuff and it got smoother for me, I'm mostly doing T16 expedition + harvest and whatever mod comes in my map (delirium, essence, blight etc.) no issues, my dmg on conquerors (alch+Corrupt) isn't as high as last leagues but I am not necro, no ag, no eq, and only lvl 90 so I expect thats why, trying to snipe a good helm and an EQ armor (still using tabula +2 minion gems) gotta reach the old insane dps levels of nuking conquerors in 1-3sec and carrying mavens for money I hope it's doable with a little bit more investment

Quite curious you've found this. My experience is the Bearers are performing much better than Crushclaws. The shotgun projectiles are amazing for map clear and they have been doing better on conquerors too.

Bearers felt good for map clear for me just nuke all the trash, but the dmg wasn't that good on bosses (I failed a few fully buffed conquerors/guardians with volley) with primals i still 1 shot and i have explosions so same levels of map clear just my primals charge all mobs so they taunt/tank a lot of random hits that would've killed me with frostbearers since i go full speed/dash/convocation for fast clears. I was using them in my +2minion chest for 6l as my main source of dmg but felt off, now my specters are in my +2+hypo helm when i get a +2+hypo+minion dmg or crit or ele dmg i may experiment again with them, in my build i just want dmg don't care much about max block n stuff did the same difference in the last few leagues I've played this build (skipped a few leagues where minion changes happened) and I was having the best time due to my high dmg but mostly doing boss rushing or boss farming. If you're having a breeze with frostbearers on conquerors share your links (I copied ghazzies)

Adding three very high budget tanky PoBs for this.

One with forged frostbearer and one with 1 primal and buffers.

4x forged frostbearer + 1 primal + zombie+ golems
(skipped skeletons to avoid having to summon them, could replace zombies instead)
https://pobb.in/LlzHT1fTldRF (updated)

Primal crushclaw + arena master + host cheif+ pale sera + carnage cheif
https://pobb.in/b5wdlRzPLQDi (updated)

Full DPS with 4x forged frostbearer + 1 primal + zombie+ golems
https://pobb.in/IrKJif9vE_YZ

With the new hatred 30% increased effect in weapon or shield tree it is no longer worth going skin of the lords EE or brass dome.
With a +1 spectre chest that has increased hatred effect and 10% mana reservation, we can get the weapon/shield tree for it as well for even more dmg than EE would have.
EE in skin becomes rather pointless.

You want a shield with 80% increased cooldown recovery for guard skills.
This will make molten shell have around 2s cd with 8.5s duration.

I have all the gear besides the mirror helmet that probably will never happen :(

Edit: Just a FYI PoB creator confirmed to Ghazzy that divergent hypothermia is bugged and will be over valued as all minions get a stacking -4 resist in PoB.
But it does not stack. (confirmed)
Also geting high enough max DMG hit(2mil?) to Freeze a boss is very unlikely so boss bonus for that would rarely happen.

Divergent hypo would still be good for maps and weaker bosses.

Divergent bonechill will not be that good either since the chill effect will most likely be overwritten by a stronger minion chill attack.
This is why precision is used instead.

Vaal skeletons are not enabled to see a more "real" dmg output at all times.
Only two frenzy and power charges are active as well.
Otherwise PoB dmg would be higher.

Thanks Hoffen.. how does the clearspeed look like? I find that since the SO nerf, I've haven't been completely satisfied with minion clearspeed. I'm a speedwhore, and I have the need.. The need for speed.

If you have mageblood and an exploding AG with decent amount of increased area of effect you will have really good clear speed imo and boss killing will still be very good with primal setup.

These are some videos from last league where I had something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcDipUSBf0 Yellow map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhxA0zEpbXI Uber eater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc3IiFcaxAE 100% deli map

It should be even stronger this league with the weapon/shield skill trees.

One option is to get EE on a weapon tree that you use as a weapon switch to tag with.

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Hoffen wrote:

Adding two very high budget tanky PoBs for this.

One with forged frostbearer and one with 1 primal and buffers.

4x forged frostbearer + 1 primal + zombie+ golems
(skipped skeletons to avoid having to summon them, could replace zombies instead)
https://pastebin.com/ZYrVnM75

Primal crushclaw + arena master + host cheif+ pale sera + carnage cheif
https://pastebin.com/LwmxZ1Tc

With the new hatred 30% increased effect in weapon tree it is no longer worth going skin of the lords EE or brass dome.
With a +1 spectre chest that has increased hatred effect and 10% mana reservation, we can get the skill tree for it as well for even more dmg than EE would have.
EE in skin becomes rather pointless.

You want a shield with 80% increased cooldown recovery for guard skills.
This will make molten shell have around 2s cd with 8s duration.

I have all the gear besides the mirror helmet that probably will never happen :(

Edit: Just a FYI PoB creator confirmed to Ghazzy that divergent hypothermia is bugged and will be over valued as all minions get a stacking -4 resist in PoB.
But it does not stack. (confirmed)
Also geting high enough max DMG hit(2mil?) to Freeze a boss is very unlikely so boss bonus for that would rarely happen.

Divergent hypo would still be good for maps and weaker bosses.

Divergent bonechill will not be that good either since the chill effect will most likely be overwritten by a stronger minion chill attack.
This is why precision is used instead.

Vaal skeletons are not enabled to see a more "real" dmg output at all times.
Only two frenzy and power charges are active as well.
Otherwise PoB dmg would be higher.

Hello, I'm a big dumb dumb and am confused as to why you have 7 gems slotted into the chest, and 5 gems slotted into the boots. Could you please explain? Thank you.

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Jacob_28348 wrote:

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Hoffen wrote:

Adding two very high budget tanky PoBs for this.

One with forged frostbearer and one with 1 primal and buffers.

4x forged frostbearer + 1 primal + zombie+ golems
(skipped skeletons to avoid having to summon them, could replace zombies instead)
https://pastebin.com/ZYrVnM75

Primal crushclaw + arena master + host cheif+ pale sera + carnage cheif
https://pastebin.com/LwmxZ1Tc

With the new hatred 30% increased effect in weapon tree it is no longer worth going skin of the lords EE or brass dome.
With a +1 spectre chest that has increased hatred effect and 10% mana reservation, we can get the skill tree for it as well for even more dmg than EE would have.
EE in skin becomes rather pointless.

You want a shield with 80% increased cooldown recovery for guard skills.
This will make molten shell have around 2s cd with 8s duration.

I have all the gear besides the mirror helmet that probably will never happen :(

Edit: Just a FYI PoB creator confirmed to Ghazzy that divergent hypothermia is bugged and will be over valued as all minions get a stacking -4 resist in PoB.
But it does not stack. (confirmed)
Also geting high enough max DMG hit(2mil?) to Freeze a boss is very unlikely so boss bonus for that would rarely happen.

Divergent hypo would still be good for maps and weaker bosses.

Divergent bonechill will not be that good either since the chill effect will most likely be overwritten by a stronger minion chill attack.
This is why precision is used instead.

Vaal skeletons are not enabled to see a more "real" dmg output at all times.
Only two frenzy and power charges are active as well.
Otherwise PoB dmg would be higher.

Hello, I'm a big dumb dumb and am confused as to why you have 7 gems slotted into the chest, and 5 gems slotted into the boots. Could you please explain? Thank you.

The 7th armour & 5th boots gem are not enabled (the checkbox)
They were there just for testing.

I dont play cold minions since quite some time, been only running phys version of Carrions and Zombies.
I usually only play standard, can you pull this version of the build with a nice helmet from harvest days (+3 to socketed minions, minion damage, hypo, crit and more ele) and influenced chest with +1 spectre and effect of offerings ?

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Hoffen wrote:

Adding two very high budget tanky PoBs for this.

One with forged frostbearer and one with 1 primal and buffers.

4x forged frostbearer + 1 primal + zombie+ golems
(skipped skeletons to avoid having to summon them, could replace zombies instead)
https://pastebin.com/RxqLD812

Primal crushclaw + arena master + host cheif+ pale sera + carnage cheif
https://pastebin.com/66HYXrsb

With the new hatred 30% increased effect in weapon or shield tree it is no longer worth going skin of the lords EE or brass dome.
With a +1 spectre chest that has increased hatred effect and 10% mana reservation, we can get the weapon/shield tree for it as well for even more dmg than EE would have.
EE in skin becomes rather pointless.

You want a shield with 80% increased cooldown recovery for guard skills.
This will make molten shell have around 2s cd with 8.5s duration.

I have all the gear besides the mirror helmet that probably will never happen :(

Edit: Just a FYI PoB creator confirmed to Ghazzy that divergent hypothermia is bugged and will be over valued as all minions get a stacking -4 resist in PoB.
But it does not stack. (confirmed)
Also geting high enough max DMG hit(2mil?) to Freeze a boss is very unlikely so boss bonus for that would rarely happen.

Divergent hypo would still be good for maps and weaker bosses.

Divergent bonechill will not be that good either since the chill effect will most likely be overwritten by a stronger minion chill attack.
This is why precision is used instead.

Vaal skeletons are not enabled to see a more "real" dmg output at all times.
Only two frenzy and power charges are active as well.
Otherwise PoB dmg would be higher.