Harvest has ruined the game for me

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Ageless_Emperion wrote:

For someone who is ever so willing to take the long, high road to success, you have quite the boner for telling people how they shouldn't be enjoying the game. Allthewhile fetishizing the concept of tedium that is random crafting being somehow equivalent to success and fun. If I want to play the odds I'll go hit up a casino, if I want to play an ARPG I want control over my progression. Harvest gives that, period. The fact that people don't need to waste their time and can achieve what others have in less time than before is is great, the gatekeeper salt that gets brought out by the topic is equally hilarious and delicious.

I'm not sure where you saw me telling anyone how they shouldn't do anything. If somebody likes the God Mode, it's already possible in Standard. I don't want that in temp leagues. If you do - that's fine too. This forum is for expressing opinions and arguing your point of view, not personal attacks.

You need to stop using the term 'God Mode', it makes anything you say very hard to take seriously. The tools that Harvest represents are a healthy step in preserving the longevity of the game because no matter what people think, the handful of streamers are not the lifeblood of this gaming community and they don't need the help this system offers. You are by no means, in any way, obligated to use these tools. So their existence should have literally no impact on your gaming experience. So your statement that you don't want them to exist in a temp league is purely one of dictating how others should be playing. So maybe you should work out that contradiction.

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Kelvynn wrote:

I'm not sure where you saw me telling anyone how they shouldn't do anything. If somebody likes the God Mode, it's already possible in Standard. I don't want that in temp leagues. If you do - that's fine too. This forum is for expressing opinions and arguing your point of view, not personal attacks.

Why not, given it's have approproate time and resource investment?
Achieving of the "god mode" is point of this game, and the balance should just make sure that you can't achieve it with tabula after BA.

And I don't think that base crafting 300-400ex per good item is good for the game, Harvest's 20-40ex per good item was more reasonable IMO.

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_Daybit_ wrote:

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Kelvynn wrote:

And I don't think that base crafting 300-400ex per good item is good for the game, Harvest's 20-40ex per good item was more reasonable IMO.

I honestly have no clue how people do this, I've mostly played SSF standard and never have I seen anything close to resembling such a mass of exalts in this game. At one time I had about 20 exalts thinking to myself 'whoa, that's a lot of exalted orbs accumulated'.

Having items prized 300-400 ex at all just tells me a minority is living a totally different reality than casuals do. I need to really work just for that amount of chaos.

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Kelvynn wrote:

If the God Mode is how he wants to play, then nothing is stopping him. Enjoy Standard!

Trade league = God mode (IMO)

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Kelvynn wrote:

I don't want mirror tier gear to be handed to me on a platter. What's the point?

I want it handed to me for Exalts via a trade window! The irony of this double standard never ceases to amaze me.

SSF is where Harvest shined. If you only play trade, you probably have never needed what harvest offered to the game. The ability to play it without needing a whole community helping you to create your character. Because that's why we all loved it, it just let us...

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Kelvynn wrote:

PLAY(ING) THE GAME

If you really are opposed to "eliminating all challenge" I would highly encourage you to try SSF to really experience PoE for what it is. Not even HCSSF, just try SSF for the experience of building a character from the ground up. It's really rewarding and a bit more challenging. I genuinely hope you try it and enjoy the journey.

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Kelvynn wrote:

I'm not sure where you saw me telling anyone how they shouldn't do anything. If somebody likes the God Mode, it's already possible in Standard. I don't want that in temp leagues. If you do - that's fine too. This forum is for expressing opinions and arguing your point of view, not personal attacks.

I think something lost in all of this discussion is how much effort actually went behind acquiring "God mode" in harvest


Even the streamers are guilty of this. Tarke for example made the point that once he solved a craft 30 minutes later he would have it.

But that really doesn't do a good job quantifying the raw resources he actually had available to make that item in 30 minutes.

I mean yeah if i have 5 days of play time on my character by the end of week 2

with thousands of seeds and enough raw currency to out right purchase hundreds of crafts.

Then it is pretty disingenuous to say that god mode craft took ONLY 30 minutes to make .

Like many things all the good crafts were pretty chunky on the investments. You could liquify plenty of exa trying to make the good items


I had near mirror teir summoner gear in harvest.. but that was only after a month and a half of solid and consistent playing. Most power players are done with a season in a quarter of that time.