Is there any limitation on amount of items listed for trading?

Hi everypone.
I currently have 700+ items for selling.
It is very difficult to decide what price the item costs, especially when i have tons of jewels and flasks, rares and artifacts for trade the most are just garbage not worth 5 chaos. So I decided to followe the following strategy:
I have bought 5 quad stashes and set pricing for them

100c
50c
25c
10c
5c

I put item at 100c stash for trade.
After the stash 100c is full, I rename the stashes
100c -> 50c
50c -> 25c
25c -> 10c
10c -> 5c
and sell all items in stash 5c to vendor

However I have noticed that players who's asking me to trade usually write like "waves". For Example, in 2 hours i have no messages for trade at all, but suddenly got several messages from several players asking for trade for different items. It looks like all my goods are listed for several minutes and then players are not able to find my items for trading for 1 hour. Or it is just my cognitive bias?

Or can it be the mechanism of some third-paerty trading sites that lists items?
There once was an exile who found a map of infinite doctors.
Last bumped on Sep 6, 2020, 1:02:13 AM
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Programysh wrote:
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There is no limitation to the amount of things you can list.

Basically, you may put a note on any item, and name the stash tab it is in. This will be picked up by the different trade APIs.
Note that the different APIs each have their own inner refresh timers, which may not follow the ofiicial stash content GGG api.

For exemple, poe.trade refreshes the displayable content every 30 seconds. That's the theory, in practice it was up to 1 hour, as massive players influx made it lag like hell.
The official trading website also adds listings on a timer (I don't know the duration, but it's several minutes. Under load, it's definitely up to 15-30 minutes, for exemple leaguestart scenario). Note that the official trade website seems to remove listings instantly, not sure how that works.

This can indeed make people all whisper you at the same time when your item pops up with a delay.

Edit: I think I misunderstood your question and answered how to post items. I thought the "waves" you were reffering to were the ~symbol and you were not using it, making you unable to trade. My bad.

Spoiler

First you need to set your tab to public, you have probably already done this.

Now, the price of an item will be:
- Determined by the note if it has any
- Otherwise, determined by the tab name

Anoting an item for trade is easy now, you may just right click it and set either a "asking price" or "exact price" depending on wether or not you're willing to negociate.

If you name a tab to list everything inside at a global price, you need to follow the exact syntax.

The syntax is:

[trade type] [quantity] [currency]
for exemple: "~price 1 jewellers"

The trade type may be "~B/O" or "~PRICE" (capitalisation doesn't matter). First is for asking price, second will display "exact price" next to your listing in most trade parsers.

The quanity is any multiple of 0.5. Note that putting 0 here will have weird results.

The currency is a small string that defines what kind of currency you are asking for. The list wa afaik originally designed by poe.trade, and is available here: https://currency.poe.trade/tags.
The official trade website uses the same.

You most likely just didn't name your tab correctly, which would explain why no one PMed you. Make sure your tab names are correct.
In doubt, you may just price an item inside, right click it, press "note", copy the text here, edit your tab's name, paste the price from your clipbard and save.
Last edited by Darkxellmc#0807 on Sep 3, 2020, 10:53:59 AM
I also wanted to add something else. What you are experiencing may also frequently be due to market variations.


PoE's economy is liberalist with perfect buyer's information.
Players are able to sort items by price, and quality. Due to this, your item will ONLY sell when there is not an item of higher quality for a lower price. This is called the skyline of offers. Here's a graph to help yourself represent it:



The thing is, most items aren't on the skyline, and yet will sell. But only items on the skyline will sell. So how does that work?
Simple: the skyline moves.

When there is more item offer than demand, new cheaper and higher quality listings will appear, and the line on the graph above will move down. This is a period of time where mostly only new listings will sell, as old ones aren't on the skyline.

When there is more demand than supply however, the line moves up, and uncovers items that were not previously on the line. Suddenly, your listing is the best bang for buck, and it's the one everyone wants. If you have a listing when the skyline moves up, you'll suddenly get spammed. This doesn't mean your item is misspriced, it's prefectly normal.
Last edited by Darkxellmc#0807 on Sep 3, 2020, 11:02:50 AM
In theory for the skyline sure. In practice with the PoE market people may skip the line altogether and jump up a bit in price to avoid 20 minutes for 1 trade.
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Aldonés wrote:
In theory for the skyline sure. In practice with the PoE market people may skip the line altogether and jump up a bit in price to avoid 20 minutes for 1 trade.


While that's true from a buyer's perspective, that is definitively not true for sellers.

As you said yourself, the very reason you may pay more to buy an item fast is because when you buy on the skyline, it's often already sold. That just goes to show that the demand on the skyline is much MUCH higher.
Thanks for the explanation! The example with hotels is brilliant example of the phenomenon.

However, I fully understand the concept of skyline. It can explain the phenomena of spam waves for single item. But how to explain the simultaneous waves of trade for different items for different builds?
There once was an exile who found a map of infinite doctors.
It looks like your question has been answered by our community, but I would just like to confirm that you shouldn't encounter any limits when listing your items from your stash tabs.

If you encounter any issues with our trade website, or have any questions in general, you are always welcome to contact our support team at support@grindinggear.com.

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