[EDITED] Chimera fight was great, until you changed the smoke color

Original post:
Really enjoyed this fight. the pace, the intensity. the synergy with the music.

Minions hit too hard compared to other T16 monsters, and could use a slight nerf.
but he is the most fun fight among the 3 Guardians I faced so far (didn't fight Phoenix yet).

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And then the color of the smoke changed and I can't see it anymore.

I think Phoenix is a better fight than Chimera (just FYI). :]


Edit:

In order of most fun:
1. Phoenix
2. Chimera
3. Hydra
4. Minotaur

Phoenix arena is too small. Same can be said about Minotaur, considering his massive AoE. Hydra... Not a big bullet hell fan. So I'd say Chimera is most enjoyable.

I'd recommend to try all t16 bosses with 60%+ attack speed mods (preferably 'frenzy on hit' too)
For some reason these mods feels not like 1.6 attack speed multiplier but rather x3 animation speed.


Also 140%+ boss' AoE Minotaur & Phoenix would provide the true 'fun' aka 'you have to place to retreat'.

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Oblitus wrote:

Phoenix arena is too small. Same can be said about Minotaur, considering his massive AoE. Hydra... Not a big bullet hell fan. So I'd say Chimera is most enjoyable.

I mean... Chimera, in my experience, is by far the easiest fight if you're running melee. So I guess that makes it more enjoyable?

Minotaur is just miserable. *Makes face.*

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bwam wrote:

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Oblitus wrote:

Phoenix arena is too small. Same can be said about Minotaur, considering his massive AoE. Hydra... Not a big bullet hell fan. So I'd say Chimera is most enjoyable.

I mean... Chimera, in my experience, is by far the easiest fight if you're running melee. So I guess that makes it more enjoyable?

Minotaur is just miserable. *Makes face.*

I am running necromancer. Minotaur slams the whole screen with insane amounts of phys AoE, and it usually means one-shot, and you can do little to avoid it. Hydra - you have to run around all the time, and crappy minion AI makes this "fight" pathetic sight. Phoenix - again, arena-wide AoE is not fun, and there is little space to maneuver.

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SomethingWonderful wrote:

I'd recommend to try all t16 bosses with 60%+ attack speed mods (preferably 'frenzy on hit' too)
For some reason these mods feels not like 1.6 attack speed multiplier but rather x3 animation speed.


Also 140%+ boss' AoE Minotaur & Phoenix would provide the true 'fun' aka 'you have to place to retreat'.

I did my first minautor on a inc AOE map .... I can't remember exactly how it was, but holy shit it was tense for sure lol.

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Oblitus wrote:

I am running necromancer. Minotaur slams the whole screen with insane amounts of phys AoE, and it usually means one-shot, and you can do little to avoid it.

You can definitely position yourself to avoid it, especially if you are not melee.

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SomethingWonderful wrote:

I'd recommend to try all t16 bosses with 60%+ attack speed mods (preferably 'frenzy on hit' too)
For some reason these mods feels not like 1.6 attack speed multiplier but rather x3 animation speed.


Also 140%+ boss' AoE Minotaur & Phoenix would provide the true 'fun' aka 'you have to place to retreat'.

I love minotaur and phoenix with "Monsters have 100% increased area of effect" and "Unique boss has 70% increased area of effect" XD. Phoenix's explosion covers the entire fucking arena. No place to hide. Minotaur can swipe u on the other side of the world. Always a pleasure to run those maps :')

Completed all 4 Guardians now.

Finding Phoneix a bit underwhelming to be honest. he doesn't have any "cool" moves and is basically a cyclone-fire-discharge-repeat like the Beacon Map boss.
With more life, damage, and more crap on the screen of course.

Overall:

1) Chimera. best fight even compared to Elder Guardians (most of whom I consider better-designed).

2) Hydra. not a fan of bullet hell and lack the mouse skills to effectively dodge it (hence - died the most in this fight), but it's unique. no other boss does that.

3) Phoenix. see above.

4) Minotaur. bullshit (pun intended). big AoE. tiny arena made that much smaller by the lightning barriers (slowing you to a halt) and huge falling rocks AoE zones that last forever.
it's like you have no other choice but to face-tank this guy. and I'm an evasion/manual-dodge char I can't face-tank anything.

Also, Chimera fight + this https://youtu.be/5u5eSkUREKo
Enough said.