Herald of Ash does not work with traps (resolved)
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The overkill effect does not proc with firetrap or with bear trap.
While we are on the subject, added damage to spells from abyss jewels still does not work on bear trap and I'd love to know why. Last edited by Vandalorumsex#6947 on Mar 10, 2018, 7:29:06 AM Last bumped on Mar 10, 2018, 7:28:20 AM
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Neither of these are bugs.
Herald of Ash's overkill effect only occurs when an entity with the Herald of Ash buff overkills something. The trap is doing the killing and the trap itself does not have Herald of Ash's buff effect so it doesn't splash. It benefits from the modifiers Herald of Ash gives to your [I]skills[/I] (such as %phys added as fire) because the trap uses your skills, but the overkill effect is not tied to your skills but instead to the Herald buff itself. As for Bear Trap not benefiting from damage to spells: it specifically is not spell damage, so it doesn't get modified by anything that specifically modifies spell damage. It is considered secondary damage, and as such it cannot be blocked or dodged or evaded in any way and isn't modified by anything that deals with spell damage. |
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Got it actually, herald of ash burning is a skill you are using not a buff you are getting to your skills. Bear trap gets any buffs to your skills but isn't itself using herald of ash. So bear trap is you hitting someone with elemental damage for the purpose of elemental equilibrium and does use your ignite limit for emberwake but cannot use the herald of ash skill itself. Thanks for clarifying.
Last edited by Vandalorumsex#6947 on Mar 10, 2018, 7:19:10 AM
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"You" is not a keyword.
There are four Damage sources: Attack, Spell, Damage over Time and secondary Damage. These are mutually exclusive*: a Damage 'packet' cannot be both an Attack and Damage over Time, for example. Because Bear Trap deals secondary Damage, it does not deal Attack or Spell Damage. Bear Trap doesn't benefit from +Damage to Spells because it's not Spell Damage. * = There are Skills that apply Spell Damage modifiers to Damage over Time, Scorching Ray for example. The Damage packet still does not deal actual Spell damage, but it does benefit from Spell-specific modifiers. edit; oh. Well :P Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Mar 10, 2018, 7:20:11 AM
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Yeah, I wasn't actually confused about bear trap damage, That clicked pretty quickly but I was just confused because it has the spell gem tag. I was just confused about why it wouldn't get the buff effect because I didn't really think about how the herald of ash effect is like an on kill trigger skill on it's own and as I do actually know traps don't trigger.
Although, I played a poison bladefall trap build as assassin and I don't think I was getting the recovered life on kill from bladefall traps. It's all just a bit too much for me to understand I think. Because I'm getting endurance charges from fire trap on chieftain right now. again, as long as emberwake works with my bear trap build I guess it doesn't matter. Don't think I'll play traps again though. Last edited by Vandalorumsex#6947 on Mar 10, 2018, 7:59:05 AM
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