100% increased onslaught effect question

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domis2830 wrote:

Alright then,so with that i get 40% IAS/IMS, whats the point of going frenzy path? Even with 10 frenzies, the onslaught is still better in every way...
Except for a few builds, i think onslaught path will take over the frenzy path now, or is there something i am missing?

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lolPLSiGOTthis wrote:

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Vipermagi wrote:

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awright wrote:

The thing about that branch though is you probably have onslaught near 100% of the time anyway either from pots, on kill, or through other gear, is it really that substantial a gain to drop 4 ascendancy points into it for double effect considering the gains on the other ascendancies

You're forgetting the better modifier, namely 25% More Chance to Evade. Going from 70% to 87.5% Chance to Evade is crazy good, just over halves the amount of Attacks that do Hit. Plus, going Slaughter means you don't need to spend a highly valuable Flask slot on just 20% IAS/ICS/IMS.

Yeah many people don't realize how strong this is. It's not that hard to reach 50% chance to evade and with blind on hit jewels it's real trivial to blind everything in your path and have capped chance to evade. Evasion cap is 95%, going from 75% reduction to 95% is equivalent to gaining 80% multiplicative reduction.
Also while it's true that onslaught is pretty easy to get trough flasks and on kill effects, the on kill effects are unreliable vs bosses and silver flask takes up a flask slot, which has downsides of theri own.
The onslaught path is severly underrated.

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pijanapanda wrote:

So many people cry about armour but i see that big part of forum don't know how evasion work.
75% chance to evade attack is same as 75% physical damage reduction=mean absolutely nothing.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Secondly 75% evade while mapping outside of abyss mobs or damage aura stacks is very reliable defence, its also fantastic on any boss where you know for sure you won't get one shot (as every 4 attacks is a very long window for recovery/leech/regen)

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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pijanapanda wrote:

So many people cry about armour but i see that big part of forum don't know how evasion work.
75% chance to evade attack is same as 75% physical damage reduction=mean absolutely nothing.

This is like... so wrong its hilarious

firstly its nothing like 75% actual phys reduction which is the difference between facetanking everything izaro does with charged disruptors and getting turned into a pancake.

Secondly 75% evade while mapping outside of abyss mobs or damage aura stacks is very reliable defence, its also fantastic on any boss where you know for sure you won't get one shot (as every 4 attacks is a very long window for recovery/leech/regen)