Suggestion: Haste reserves 35% mana instead of 50%

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opeth wrote:
As if summoners weren't already powerful enough lets give them even more spare mana reserve, I disagree with the reduction. 50% is good for a gem that is used on practically all summoner builds and some melee. Auras that have very little actual end game use like Determination should be reduced, besides aurabot and very very few other builds. No one uses that garbage.


So your argument is that because of summoners you dun wanna buff it? Kind of logic is that dude lol
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opeth wrote:
As if summoners weren't already powerful enough lets give them even more spare mana reserve, I disagree with the reduction. 50% is good for a gem that is used on practically all summoner builds and some melee. Auras that have very little actual end game use like Determination should be reduced, besides aurabot and very very few other builds. No one uses that garbage.


My main point is that it's an inferior choice when compared to any other dps aura that reserves 50%. There needs to be some consistency here with the benefit vs reservation ratio. Otherwise, as I said before, we're totally stuck unable to make any change to any skill because some builds will benefit and they "don't need a buff," even though it's not really about them.

Auras should reserve a % of mana proportional to how powerful they are. They shouldn't reserve a certain amount just because they always have, it's tradition, and we can't change things because someone somewhere might get an undeserved buff. This is a nonsensical way to design and balance skills.

The cost of a skill (which can manifest itself in many ways) should be directly proportional to its utility. It's madness to have skill A cost the same as skill B with less than half the benefit just because we're afraid a small number of players might use both A and B. Then nobody uses A at all except for the players who are so strong they can afford to tack it on; almost everyone naturally chooses to go with B. Why does A exist at that point? It's just another buff for the already powerful players.

To make this less abstract, if summoners and aurabots are the only players who use Haste right now and both builds are too strong, then let's just eliminate Haste from the game! Now nobody gets to use it.

As a side note, I actually like Determination, and think it should be buffed to deserve the 50% mana reservation rather than have that reduced - perhaps to something like 71% more armor at l20 instead of 51%. This would make it consistent with Grace. Discipline is more mandatory than the other two (for any ES build), so I understand why that's at 35%.
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Last edited by demon9675#2961 on Feb 11, 2018, 3:48:56 AM
A problem related to the topic is the fact that haste is essentially the ONLY DPS aura that pure physical builds can utilise and it is pathetic. Unless they give us a pure physical aura and herald, haste should either reserve less mana or get buffed. Buffing it could be problematic though.
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Ghoulz666 wrote:
The 50% reservation should only be reserved for the DPS auras, not utility/defensive.


What scales DPS quite more than AS?
But i agree with OP! 50% blows.

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Why 35% anyway? I just thought that 40% might be out of the pattern but not necessarily bad.
Last edited by Scherge#6940 on Feb 11, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
How crazy would it be if all auras scaled reservation with level the way that clarity does. Other skills scale mana with power why not auras?


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Last edited by Lightning_Wolf#7115 on Feb 11, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
Haste, Grace and Determination.
Buff life on the right side of the tree! Just a little! Pretty Please!
Lots of talk about aurabots in this thread. I assume that is a bot that just follows you around from another account and has some auras cast on it? Are aurabots legal?
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Turtledove wrote:
Lots of talk about aurabots in this thread. I assume that is a bot that just follows you around from another account and has some auras cast on it? Are aurabots legal?


It's an old term for players who like to be supportive in MMOs and other multiplayer games. Their role is largely to cast auras, buffs and occasionally heal. Healbot and Buffbot are also a thing. It has nothing to do with botting (at least in PoE's context; other games might be a different story) and everything to do with the mindless, automated nature of the character's role.

...I was a great Med-bot on D2 for a long time. Before the runeword came in to grant anyone meditation (curse that fucker, putting me out of a job), there wasn't a single player or party I encountered that didn't appreciate a meditation-holy bolt specced paladin following them around keeping their mana full and their life...well, alive.

I don't really see much need for the support role in PoE outside of the highest content but I'm glad some people go there. :)



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The_Scourge wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
Lots of talk about aurabots in this thread. I assume that is a bot that just follows you around from another account and has some auras cast on it? Are aurabots legal?


It's an old term for players who like to be supportive in MMOs and other multiplayer games. Their role is largely to cast auras, buffs and occasionally heal. Healbot and Buffbot are also a thing. It has nothing to do with botting (at least in PoE's context; other games might be a different story) and everything to do with the mindless, automated nature of the character's role.

...I was a great Med-bot on D2 for a long time. Before the runeword came in to grant anyone meditation (curse that fucker, putting me out of a job), there wasn't a single player or party I encountered that didn't appreciate a meditation-holy bolt specced paladin following them around keeping their mana full and their life...well, alive.

I don't really see much need for the support role in PoE outside of the highest content but I'm glad some people go there. :)



Thanks, sounds kind of boring. I guess it might be okay occasionally in an active guild though?
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