Deadeye or Assassin for a Bleed/DoT Bow-Build?

I also guess that I will maybe get a Damage Proble. bc I will need GMP with Slivertongue or anybody got any Gem Setup recommandations? Mine would be:

Tornado Shot->GMP->Phys Projectile Attack Dmg->Pierce->Faster Attacks->Slower Projectiles

Hmm, if you really want to use Silvertongue I would recommend rethinking your build. Silvertongue is almost designed to synergise with Deadeye, as the extra chain allows the bow to bring all its power out.

Going for ricochet and endless munition would allow you to use all the potential of this bow and dismiss GMP, as its less damage multiplier double dips on your DoTs. You could go TS-Phys Proj-Faster Attack-Slower Proj-Poison-Void Manipulation/Increased Crit Chance/Damage (Natural Pierce chance is bad, since it means you have a chance of not forking/chaining)

So after some cupple of trys of thinking of the right gem-setup I feel like not using slivertunge for the Assassin Skill tree bc I would need the gems pierce, chain and GMP and I guess taht would be too much dmg loss (and yes I know that pierce gives dmg and even boosts the dmg more when using Drillneck).

So either I would only have to play with Reach of the council which was nerfed and I don't know if it's still viable to play with in endgame maps. Is there a gem setup that would make a rare harbringer bow usefull for the Poison+Bleed Bow Build?

Thx for your answers.

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Desaroth wrote:

So after some cupple of trys of thinking of the right gem-setup I feel like not using slivertunge for the Assassin Skill tree bc I would need the gems pierce, chain and GMP and I guess taht would be too much dmg loss (and yes I know that pierce gives dmg and even boosts the dmg more when using Drillneck).

So either I would only have to play with Reach of the council which was nerfed and I don't know if it's still viable to play with in endgame maps. Is there a gem setup that would make a rare harbringer bow usefull for the Poison+Bleed Bow Build?

Thx for your answers.

Lol, reach is still more than fucking viable for DoT TS builds. Still equivalent to a 400pdps harbinger, and when you account for the double dipping less modifier on gmp, its mirror-bow equivalent. The old version was so OP that it completely outclassed mirrored bows for DoT purposes.

Just do the fucking math, people. Had the bow been initially released with the nerfed dps, people would still have called it OP. Why's that? Because crafting an equivalent or better harbinger takes insane amounts of currency and luck, and such bows are worth dozens of ex in standard.

For those too lazy to check it themselves, the old reach had a max of 375pdps, equivalent to about a 500pdps harbinger, and about 660 for DoT purposes. For comparison, the mirrored harbinger has about 610 pdps. The new reach goes up to 297pdps, ie 400ish equivalent, about 520 for DoT. That's still better than any, any bow you're going to get in a league.

Edit: Sorry if I seem a bit salty, I'm just really sick and tired of people going and saying reach is worthless, useless, etc. It's still the best unique bow out there.

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Desaroth wrote:

Edit: Sorry if I seem a bit salty, I'm just really sick and tired of people going and saying reach is worthless, useless, etc. It's still the best unique bow out there.

Well it's nothing abput salty there. A little bit harsh but the point is that I didn't even noticed that Bow while playing Prophecy bc I haven't touched any bow builds that season. I saw Reach first time 4 days ago and yeah I realized that it was OP.

So because I have never played a build with that bow I just wanted to tell you that I don't know if its viable or not. Ofc it can't be shoit bc you still save the GMP gem which you can replace with a damage support gem. And also I guess that Reach of the Council will be better working for my Tornadoshot Dot Build then Slivertounge.

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Desaroth wrote:

Well it's nothing abput salty there. A little bit harsh but the point is that I didn't even noticed that Bow while playing Prophecy bc I haven't touched any bow builds that season. I saw Reach first time 4 days ago and yeah I realized that it was OP.

So because I have never played a build with that bow I just wanted to tell you that I don't know if its viable or not. Ofc it can't be shoit bc you still save the GMP gem which you can replace with a damage support gem. And also I guess that Reach of the Council will be better working for my Tornadoshot Dot Build then Slivertounge.

Oh yes, definitely better than silvertongue. What's better, reach will be a lot cheaper this league.

So in the end you can say Reach is BiS for an Assassin Dot Bow Build and Slivertunge is BiS when you want to go on the Deadeye-Ascendancy-Class. And I still believe that the Assassin will overcome the deadeye in the damage. (from my point of view but thats not a far view :D )

Thanks for the help to you all. Maybe I will write something in this post during the Essence League or a little guide. Have a nice day and hf gl in the new league!