Mortem Morsu + Bladefall?

Was wondering if the Phys to Chaos damage conversion worked on Bladefall from this weapon. I know the poison on hit doesnt but...

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mortem_Morsu

Yes.

It works but it's totally not worth it. If you want added chaos damage, you can use Death's Hand, it also has the benefit of generating power charges for you. But a good wand or dagger will still give you much more damage.

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Bars wrote:

It works but it's totally not worth it. If you want added chaos damage, you can use Death's Hand, it also has the benefit of generating power charges for you. But a good wand or dagger will still give you much more damage.

You need to crit to get the unholy might buff which is only 2sec. I feel the up time in that would be kinda low. Does it work if the spell grits? I was also under the impression that Bladefall has a pretty low crit chance.

Works pretty much all the time with Assassin, he can easily get to 80%+ bladefall crit chance and 95% crit chance vs. enemies on full HP even easier.

But, again, it's not worth it. A good wand or dagger can give you twice as much dps. Won't be cheap, especially at the start of the league, but worth it. Wands are substantially cheaper because people are apparently obsessed with daggers and whirling blades. At that point in the leagues you can find a high spell damage - spell crit - crit multi wand for, I don't know, 10 chaos? Something funny like that.

I guess I'm lost as to why a dagger would help with Bladefall dps? I thought the weapon has no effect on Bladefalls damage. Also I'm not so much looking for chaos damage as a dps increase as much as to ignore resistances. I had an idea for a chaos damage Bladefall build. Seeing if it works. So far, meh. But I am only level 38 on the build so. Was also thinking of doing Bladefall with trap. Plan was to use the Mortem Morsu in one hand and an Obliteration wand in the other. Combined with the Lightbane chest and the Occultist ascendancy. I don't know how much this changes things as far as your suggesting Deaths Hand and stuff.

Daggers roll caster mods too and their implicit mod is global, a Kris would be ideal (they have 80% global crit chance implicit mod). Resistances are irrelevant, Bladefall deals physical damage.

Bladefall traps and mines melt everything but there are well-established guides for that, there's no need to wrack your brain trying to come up with something - just look in the Shadow and Witch forums. Judging from your comment about daggers, I'm reasonably sure you don't know enough about the game to come up with your own builds yet and I don't mean this in a disparaging way, we've all been there.

Once again: a good rare wand or dagger will give you two or even three times more damage than mortem morsu, obliteration or death's hand.

I know about daggers rolling caster mods. Just haven't really come across that many to compare against nice wands. Being as I want caster mods for Bladefall other than the crit wouldn't a wand be better?

No I don't know as much as many but I actually take a large part of my fun in this game from wracking my brain on my own builds ;-P. I've tried other people's builds and other than a Facebreaker build I'm following (which uses the Shadow, what can I say I like to do things differently) I haven't had much fun with them. Lord knows I have quite a few failed builds. On a side note my 2h Hammer Sunder Witch has been pretty fun (I wanted to make Harley Quinn). None of the Ascendancy options really worked great but what can you do...

Both wands and daggers can roll spell damage, spell crit and gobal crit multi. The only difference is in the implicit mods, wands give spell damage and daggers give global crit. Wands can roll cast speed which daggers cannot, but you get more than enough cast speed from faster casting and spell echo anyway.

So, what about the Bladefall trap combo melts mobs so good? Does the trap damage scale the Bladefall spell?