Ignite Damage calculation

Related to this: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ignite

The Base Damage of Ignite is 20% per second of the hit.

Example:

Firedamage: 100, burn: 20/s

If i get nodes to get an increases of 400% with Fire/Elemental/Projectil (Fireball), so i should do 100% per second of hit.

Example:

Firedamage 500, burn: 500/s
Is this part correct?

What role plays the slower projectile beta Gem? is it applied twice too? (for Fireball and again for Ignite)

increased fire/ele dmg 400%

--> you do 500 fire dmg -> 100 burn x +400% = 500 total burn dmg

dunno what beta slow proj gem does so cant help on that

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kaarelo wrote:

dunno what beta slow proj gem does so cant help on that

30-49% less projectile speed
20-29% more projectile damage

Much better than before, I must say. And yes, it's a projectile damage multiplier and it will effectively apply twice on ignite from projectiles, so if you had those 400% increased damage and 29% more from slow projectiles you would do 645 direct damage and 832 damage per second.

Sounds good, thank you very much ;)

New Question: Fireresis

Fireresis affect the Firedamage and the Burning damage, so in the case of 1000 Damage and 1000 Burningdamage, the damage should be changed to this:


0 Resis: 1000 Hit, 1000 Burn
25 resis: 750 Hit, 562 Burn
50 resis: 500 Hit, 250 Burn
75 resis: 250 Hit, 62 Burn

-25 resis: 1250 Hit, 1562 Burn
-50 resis: 1500 Hit, 2250 Burn
-75 resis: 1750 Hit, 3062 Burn
-100 resis: 2000 Hit, 4000 Burn
-125 resis: 2250 Hit, 5062 Burn

Is this correct?

Level 21 Flam: 40%
Level 21/20 Ele Weakness 48%
Effectivity: 52% (beta)
Total from curses: 133%

EE: 50%

This would be a total of around 183% reduced Fireresis.

Yes, resistance also effectively applies twice to damage over time, that's why enemies will probably never kill you with ignite.

Additional Questions: Base Damage, Support Gems

In all cases, we do 1000 Firedamage (hit) and 1000 burning damage

Does Base Damage modify the burning damage? It should since its not limited to to weapon damage.

Heavy Strike Level 1:
150% Base Damage
becomes to
1500 Firedamage and 2250 Burning damage

Spectral Throw level 1:
38% Base Damage
becomes to
380 Firedamage and 144 Burning Damage

Spectral Throw level 1 with GMP level 1:
38% Base Damage and 50% less projectile damage
becomes to
190 Firedamage and 36 Burningdamage

Any Attack with 100% Base Damage and Beta Elemental Proliferation
http://cb.poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Elemental+Proliferation
100% Base Damage and 30% less Damage
becomes to
700 Firedamage and 490 Burning Damage
So Firedamage linked with EP would do 51% less Burning Damage


If Burning Damage works in this way means, that you will get insane burning damage values with Ice Crash.


Actually (live) iam using Static Strike with Multistrike:

Primary Target:
110% Base Damage, 36% Less Damage Multistrike
becomes to
704 Fire Damage and 495 Burning Damage

Secondary Targets:
492 Fire Damage and 220 Burning Damage*

*) This would explain, why it seems so my Burning Damage does (almost) no damage.

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Fumina wrote:

Does Base Damage modify the burning damage?

Base damage no, GMP yes, beta prolif yes, Multistrike no.

Here's a list on the wiki (all-damage modifiers like that on beta prolif is kind of missing from the list, but it should be obvious that it counts if some of its subtypes do).

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Fumina wrote:

Does Base Damage modify the burning damage?

'Deals % of base damage' is short for 'this attack deals % of base damage', that's why it doesn't affect damage over time except indirectly.

Supports that say 'less damage' like Melee Splash will affect burning.

Supports that say 'less attack damage' like Multistrike will not.

Supports that say 'less projectile damage' like GMP might not in some cases, for instance if you use them with melee/projectile skills like Molten or Lightning Strike they will not apply if you ignited with melee hit.