And again - will melee dexterity based builds be forgotten?

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creampuffed4u wrote:

Since I dont play hardcore much I am not qualified. to comment on that,but I do play melee 85% of the time as it is my favorite way too play.

Now this is personal preference but I think evasion is one of the worst mechanics in the game and even when I play a ranged i usually change evasion too armor. And for melee double so. It's like this

You are standing in the middle of the road refusing to move and expecting that somehow that semi truck will not hit you when it gets too you. If you want to "EVADE" it you would have to jump out of the way, which we all know melee doesn't like too do.

Too where armor mitigates some of the incoming damage"even though less effective at higher levels" evasion only gives you a chance to squirm out of the way which can be hard if the whole screen is filled with monster attack.
The only advantage evasion has over armor I believe is the type of damage that can be reduced...I believe you can evade all damage but only reduce physical with armor.

But as a melee character I have found much more use in unwavering stance. Since stun is one of melee's worst enemy's.
And as far as life goes hopefully they will fix the dead zone a little from mid 40 to mid 50's with the re balance. But that will not help me much cause as a personal preference anytime I can take CI I do and especially with melee

You never know I might try a CI evader some day..

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I believe that is incorrect. Spells can't be evaded without a mechanic explicitly functioning that way (meaning evasion won't work). Spell Dodge and Spell Block I believe are the only ways of avoiding spell damage.

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

I have an Ev/Es melee char. I don't think it's feasible to go CI as an evader simply because you want full ES gear to ensure the CI pays off. EV/ES gear just doesn't get you there ES wise. The decent life pool is a nice fallback.

But I'd love to see someone pull it off.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

ok heres the thing, in my experience evasion is super super strong for melee, but like armour its not enough alone. I would never wear a chest like carcass jack for melee, tbh theres not many builds Id wear it for at all, maybe like casters or trappers who stay well out of harms way.

With evasion melee you really want strong physical mitigation to go along with it, theres 2 ways to go about that. First is lightning coil, thats an ar+ev hybrid chest, hence rolls tons of red and green which is exactly what you want. It gives strong phys mitigation by turning a portion of physical to lightning which you then resist the majority of. It essentially gives you the same mitigation as a fairly decent amount of armour, and then you stack a ton of evasion, use grace aura, ondars guile keystone and grab acrobatics + phase acrobatics. Since the coil nerf this isnt as strong as it once was but its still strong, when combined with a taste of hate flask its super strong and its a hybrid ar+ev chest meaning tons of red sockets as standard.

Second way to go about it is to go hybrid armour + evasion, which in my opinion is probably the strongest defense a melee can take right now. You invest in hybrid ar+ev nodes, if you can grab some life+armour nodes and life+evasion nodes as well thats gg. Then you equip full armour gear, if you make sure you get strong armour rolls on the chest and hat (and shield if you use a shield) youre going to end up with 8-15k armour, youll want to back that up by getting an extra couple of endurance charges, example the oak merciless reward and the endu charge in the duelist area. Then you run grace on top for the evasion, spec ondars guile keystone and youll get between 8k and 11k evasion on top of your armour, so you are essentially getting almost all the benefits of pure armour and pure evasion, youll be wearing an armour chest so red sockets all day.


Pure armour with no significant avoidance and pure evasion with no significant physical mitigation are complete death traps, unless youre talking legacy kaoms heart Victor Doom style crazy hp build you are seriously gimped as a melee speccing into just one or the other imo. Evasion does evade elemental attacks (not spells), its entropic so basically your chance is forced into regular patterns, its not rng, if you have 50% evasion against a given mob you wont be hit twice in a row by it, its extremely strong but ultimately you will be hit and when you get hit you need that physical mitigation.






on the ci discussion, ci is just extremely hard to gear, with GG trade gear you can absolutely go hybrids but ud need a lot of luck to get that sort of gear self found.