Apex mechanics

Hello people.
I want to improve my apex clearpeed, and there are 2 things than slow me down a lot, but I feel there is a way to improve them.

1-Vaal spawning.
I'm using ST with faster projectiles, so I can kill both at once positioning from a side.
So I want them to spawn at the exact same time, But I don't know how to do it. I've tried activating them at the same time (by running in the middle), but doesn't seem to work. Sometimes I kill the one who is closer first, sometimes I kill the further one first. Sometimes I do it perfert, sometimes at 100% hp, sometimes at 40%, etc.

2-Atziri healing phase.
I haven't found a pattern about when she does it. Usually 1 phase per run, but sometimes zero, and sometimes 2.
Since her animations are superlong, I want to avoid them at any cost.
Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230
Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757
.
Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230
Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757
"
dulahan200 wrote:
Hello people.
I want to improve my apex clearpeed, and there are 2 things than slow me down a lot, but I feel there is a way to improve them.

1-Vaal spawning.
I'm using ST with faster projectiles, so I can kill both at once positioning from a side.
So I want them to spawn at the exact same time, But I don't know how to do it. I've tried activating them at the same time (by running in the middle), but doesn't seem to work. Sometimes I kill the one who is closer first, sometimes I kill the further one first. Sometimes I do it perfert, sometimes at 100% hp, sometimes at 40%, etc.

2-Atziri healing phase.
I haven't found a pattern about when she does it. Usually 1 phase per run, but sometimes zero, and sometimes 2.
Since her animations are superlong, I want to avoid them at any cost.


Best way to kill both at the same time is to get them down to 10% life and then use a skill with a fast rate of damage and/or large AOE that has Culling Strike. Personally I'd link Lightning Warp with Culling Strike, since it does damage as you leave and arrive.

As to Atziri, I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about.
"
Natharias wrote:
"
dulahan200 wrote:
Hello people.
I want to improve my apex clearpeed, and there are 2 things than slow me down a lot, but I feel there is a way to improve them.

1-Vaal spawning.
I'm using ST with faster projectiles, so I can kill both at once positioning from a side.
So I want them to spawn at the exact same time, But I don't know how to do it. I've tried activating them at the same time (by running in the middle), but doesn't seem to work. Sometimes I kill the one who is closer first, sometimes I kill the further one first. Sometimes I do it perfert, sometimes at 100% hp, sometimes at 40%, etc.

2-Atziri healing phase.
I haven't found a pattern about when she does it. Usually 1 phase per run, but sometimes zero, and sometimes 2.
Since her animations are superlong, I want to avoid them at any cost.


Best way to kill both at the same time is to get them down to 10% life and then use a skill with a fast rate of damage and/or large AOE that has Culling Strike. Personally I'd link Lightning Warp with Culling Strike, since it does damage as you leave and arrive.

As to Atziri, I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about.



That's what I was doing the first times. Then I discovered I can kill the double vaal in less than 4 seconds if they spawn at the same time. But I can only do so like 30% of the times.
Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230
Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757
Last edited by dulahan200 on Oct 29, 2014, 6:34:22 PM
I've not seen a reliable pattern for Atziri's heal phase either. There is some sort of minimum timer on it (so she doesn't continuously heal) but other than that, it looks like just some skill that she can use when it's off timer. If you nuke fast enough, she doesn't get much chance to use it.

If you have enough dps, you can kill both Vaals before they even have a chance to finish summoning their first wave of minions.
"
CutlassPair wrote:
I've not seen a reliable pattern for Atziri's heal phase either. There is some sort of minimum timer on it (so she doesn't continuously heal) but other than that, it looks like just some skill that she can use when it's off timer. If you nuke fast enough, she doesn't get much chance to use it.


At first I was trying to burst her down, and noticed she sometimes went into healing in like 2 seconds. So I have come to the conclusion that the pattern contents a strong random factor.

"
CutlassPair wrote:
If you have enough dps, you can kill both Vaals before they even have a chance to finish summoning their first wave of minions.


Do you mean when killing them normally? For what I remember when you kill one the other hides, but I might be wrong, it has been a long time since I use faster projectiles.

Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230
Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757
Tested it today and I was wrong, thanks about your vaal advice. If you focus and kill one, then you can kill the other (from 100 to 0) before it hides. Doing all my runes this way now.
Culler-support build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617230
Dedicated support build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702757

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info