Avatar of Fire + 'cold to fire' gem

I see people using this combination but the wiki says that it will scale to a 100%:

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Conversion from skill gems takes priority over conversion from other sources (such as equipment), and is not scaled. For example:

A player is wielding a bow that deals 100 Physical Damage,
a Blackgleam quiver that has 40% of Physical Damage converted to Fire Damage,
and Hrimsorrow gloves that have 25% of Physical Damage converted to Cold Damage.
The player is using the skill Lightning Arrow, which has 50% of Physical Damage converted to Lightning Damage

The total in this is example is 115% of Physical Damage, and must be scaled. Since it comes from a skill gem, Lightning Arrow's modifier takes priority and is not scaled. The other two are scaled evenly to convert the remaining 50% of physical damage.

40 * (50/65) = 30.77% Converted to Fire Damage by Blackgleam
25 * (50/65) = 19.23% Converted to Cold Damage by Hrimsorrow

In summary, the resulting converted damage would be 50 Lightning Damage, 31 Fire Damage, and 19 Cold Damage, and 0 Physical Damage, a total of 100 Damage.


Certainly this means that the conversion from avatar of fire gets scaled, resulting in the 'cold to fire' gem never adding any damage?
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CtF will definitely not add any damage (well, aside from the little %increased cold/fire damage you get from quality).

Any conversion% over 100% just shifts around portions, as described in the wiki.
it might not ADD damage directly but it allows your damage to be affected by % cold damage and still do all fire damage

so it can help you get massive burns from skills that otherwise would only do cold damage

imagine ice spear with AF and cold to fire, it would crit 95% of the time in it's 2nd stage and would trigger huge burn damage. similar to a fireball but always crits

if you had gear that gave you 30% increased cold damage it would still boost your damage


Edit: sorry misunderstood the question...

it will convert to 100% fire damage as long as you don't have any other conversions

50% from cold to fire and 50% from AoF = 100% cold -> fire damage
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Last edited by demivion#2965 on Feb 27, 2014, 8:59:52 AM
If I understand it correctly, a level 20 Cold to Fire Gem combined with Avatar of Fire, would convert 86% of the Cold Damage to Fire Damage, as opposed to 72% from C2F alone or 50% from AoF alone.

Since 72% of the Cold is converted with C2F, leaving 28% to be converted by the 50% of AoF, giving you 72%+14%=86%.
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Last edited by Sheriff_K#3938 on Feb 27, 2014, 11:16:03 AM
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Sheriff_K wrote:
If I understand it correctly, a level 20 Cold to Fire Gem combined with Avatar of Fire, would convert 86% of the Cold Damage to Fire Damage, as opposed to 72% from C2F alone or 50% from AoF alone.

Since 72% of the Cold is converted with C2F, leaving 28% to be converted by the 50% of AoF, giving you 72%+14%=86%.


No, AoF won't convert 50% of the rest, with those two you will have 122 cold damage converted to fire, which is 100%, as you can't go over that.

Unimportant, but gem had the priority, so it converted 72% and AoF converted the rest.
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lets say you have a frost nova gem...

Then you have Cold to fire lvl 6 (50%) and AoF.. would 100% of your cold damage be converted to fire dmg essentially making the skill a "Fire nova"?

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kazzle99 wrote:
lets say you have a frost nova gem...

Then you have Cold to fire lvl 6 (50%) and AoF.. would 100% of your cold damage be converted to fire dmg essentially making the skill a "Fire nova"?

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Well I hope this is not a silly question ...

If I get avatar of fire + cold to fire gem, like the above post said, all my cold will become 100% fire damage.

Will there be a change in skill animation(from ice to fire)
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Oakville wrote:
Well I hope this is not a silly question ...

If I get avatar of fire + cold to fire gem, like the above post said, all my cold will become 100% fire damage.

Will there be a change in skill animation(from ice to fire)


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