Extra Damage from Ming's Heart
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I am a little unclear about this; I've been looking at various forum posts about what Extra Chaos Damage means, and there's no clear answer that I can see.
I assume, with Critical Weakness, the word "Extra" in the phrase "Cursed Enemies take X% more extra damage from Critical Strikes", is synonymous with "Critical Multiplier". This means, if you do not crit, "More Extra" damage does not apply. Assuming that is what "More Extra" means, does it also apply to Ming's Heart such that "Gain 20% of physical damage as Extra Chaos Damage" means that if you originally deal NO chaos damage, there will be NO Extra Chaos applied? I am slightly unclear about what "Extra" means. I want to make sure what the definition is before I invest in one =x Thanks Forum Peepz! Timezone: PST (California) Last edited by KickAcid#4099 on Feb 5, 2014, 6:13:45 PM
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Min'g heart adds 20% of your physical damage as chaos damage.It has nothing to do with critical strikes.It works like Hatred aura,just with chaos and not cold damage.
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I understand that it has nothing to do with critical strikes. I was using that curse, "Critical Weakness" because of the wording on the actual gem itself.
Like why the gem says "More Extra". For instance, why does the curse say "Cursed enemies take x% more extra damage from Critical Strikes". And why does it say "Gain 20% of your physical damage as Extra Chaos Damage" as opposed to just "Gain 20% of your physical damage as Chaos Damage" if that's all it does? I guess I'm just questioning if the word "Extra" is completely interchangeable with "Increased". Timezone: PST (California) Last edited by KickAcid#4099 on Feb 5, 2014, 6:33:39 PM
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Because it would mean that 20% of your damage is conversed to chaos.As it is now you do for example 1000 damage,and with Ming's Heart it will be 1000+200 chaos.If there was not 'as extra chaos dmg" it would be just 800 phys+200 chaos."More" modifier just multiplicates total damage,while "increased" is additive.
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I thought the word "Gain" would already imply an addition, so there was no need for the word "Extra", no?
I just looked up the "Added Fire" Gem, and it has the same wording. Thanks for clearing that up. Timezone: PST (California)
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" Not necessarily, you could very well "gain" chaos damage in the form of it being a conversion of your current damage (i.e. if you currently have 100% physical then with ming's that 100% would go 80% physical and 20% chaos). However, the way it is worded especifies that you gain it as "Extra" damage, which means, basically, your new damage will be 1.2 times your previous damage(or 120%) of what it was before. The 20% being now an extra in the form of chaos damage. This is assuming a 100% physical damage base of course, if you have elemental damage then you simply add it at the end. |
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"Extra" does not have a single defined meaning in PoE, just it's regular Engligh meanings.
Ming's Heart and other similar effects use extra to make it clear the damage is on top of the regular damage, not just a conversion. Critical Weakness refers to enemies taking more extra damage because it is applying it's modifier only to the extra damage of the critical strike - if your ciritical strike multiplier is the standard 150%, then the extra damage of your crit is the bonus 50% - that part is upped by crit weakness. Technically, it should say "...take increased extra damage" because it's additive with other modifiers of the same type (i.e. the anti-crit passives in the maruader tree, which reduce only the extra damage you'd take from crits). I'll fix that at some point. | |
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" Thanks Mark! Yeah, I thought that was the way Critical Weakness worked. Your explanation skills are superior =p The fact that Extra was capitalized made me wonder ;x Timezone: PST (California)
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" Me too pls. Timezone: PST (California)
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