How does life regen work with life leech VS reflect?

If I have:
-1000 life regen per second
-8000 life
-I perform an attack that does 20 000 elemental damage to a single target but also has a life leech gem which leeches 8.8% damage as life and the target has 18% elemental reflect

1.how much life would I actually be leeching per second assuming no vaal pact and could I survive such an attack? Does life regen effectively "override" a portion of the life leech gem making it somewhat pointless when dealing with reflect?

2.Am I limited to 20% life healed per second via life leech? (meaning at most 2000 life per second) , does this take in account life regen?

3.then, how does scenario this change if i had vaal pact?

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Ele reflects only 15% now not 18. And where in the hell does someone get 8k life and 20k dps?
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DirkAustin wrote:
Ele reflects only 15% now not 18. And where in the hell does someone get 8k life and 20k dps?


its very easy to get 8000 life and 20 000 single target dps.
ele reflect on mobs is 18% while the mod on maps is 15% iirc.
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Nephalim wrote:
If I have:
-1000 life regen per second
-8000 life
-I perform an attack that does 20 000 elemental damage to a single target but also has a life leech gem which leeches 8.8% damage as life and the target has 18% elemental reflect

1.how much life would I actually be leeching per second assuming no vaal pact and could I survive such an attack? Does life regen effectively "override" a portion of the life leech gem making it somewhat pointless when dealing with reflect?

2.Am I limited to 20% life healed per second via life leech? (meaning at most 2000 life per second) , does this take in account life regen?

3.then, how does scenario this change if i had vaal pact?



Vaal pact will give you all life leech instantly back, simple as that

Regen, potions and leech all stack on top of each other and dont limit the other. Leech is 'capped' at 20% ... or 24% (with 20/20 life leech gem) of your life per second, *without* vaal pact. Life leech gem is the only way to leech with non-physical damage.


20000 x 0.088 = 1760 hp, cap more or less reached without vaal pact (but then again this is ignoring monsters res and assuming he has 0 res to that element)
20000 x 0.18 - 3600 reflect, then resists bring this down to 900 (75 res) or less
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DirkAustin wrote:
Ele reflects only 15% now not 18. And where in the hell does someone get 8k life and 20k dps?


lol!
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DirkAustin wrote:
Ele reflects only 15% now not 18. And where in the hell does someone get 8k life and 20k dps?


Spoiler


It´s deffinitely not top equip.

I have 6500 life
21 k dps rain of arrows solo.

Linked: RoA + faster attacks + conc. effect + life leech + weapon elemental damage + blood magic (used added fire before patch)

auras: Wrath/Anger

If I have Kaoms and 6L lioneye I could have like 9 k life and same dps...
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StopWastingMyTime wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
Ele reflects only 15% now not 18. And where in the hell does someone get 8k life and 20k dps?


Spoiler


It´s deffinitely not top equip.

I have 6500 life
21 k dps rain of arrows solo.

Linked: RoA + faster attacks + conc. effect + life leech + weapon elemental damage + blood magic (used added fire before patch)

auras: Wrath/Anger

If I have Kaoms and 6L lioneye I could have like 9 k life and same dps...


this is not the gear showoff thread
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SBOON3ROCBURCS3T4HI wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
If I have:
-1000 life regen per second
-8000 life
-I perform an attack that does 20 000 elemental damage to a single target but also has a life leech gem which leeches 8.8% damage as life and the target has 18% elemental reflect

1.how much life would I actually be leeching per second assuming no vaal pact and could I survive such an attack? Does life regen effectively "override" a portion of the life leech gem making it somewhat pointless when dealing with reflect?

2.Am I limited to 20% life healed per second via life leech? (meaning at most 2000 life per second) , does this take in account life regen?

3.then, how does scenario this change if i had vaal pact?



Vaal pact will give you all life leech instantly back, simple as that

Regen, potions and leech all stack on top of each other and dont limit the other. Leech is 'capped' at 20% ... or 24% (with 20/20 life leech gem) of your life per second, *without* vaal pact. Life leech gem is the only way to leech with non-physical damage.


20000 x 0.088 = 1760 hp, cap more or less reached without vaal pact (but then again this is ignoring monsters res and assuming he has 0 res to that element)
20000 x 0.18 - 3600 reflect, then resists bring this down to 900 (75 res) or less


So basically with 8000 life, at most I can leech 1760 life per second or 2600 per second with 1000 life regen and any reflection that deals more than 2760 damage instantly will kill me outright? all assuming no vaal pact.

So what exactly does vaal pact do? does it make that 1600 life leech amount apply instantly instead of continuously over 1 second?
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214
Last edited by Nephalim#2731 on Nov 12, 2013, 4:21:25 AM
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Nephalim wrote:
So what exactly does vaal pact do? does it make that 1600 life leech amount apply instantly instead of continuously over 1 second?


Yes, no cap at all. You lose your regen and potions though, on hp build its bad idea unless you have huge dps and some chaos res.
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SBOON3ROCBURCS3T4HI wrote:
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Nephalim wrote:
So what exactly does vaal pact do? does it make that 1600 life leech amount apply instantly instead of continuously over 1 second?


Yes, no cap at all. You lose your regen and potions though, on hp build its bad idea unless you have huge dps and some chaos res.


Thank you for your insight. I wish there was some way to make vaal pact for life builds as it really seems like that was the intended use and not as an easy button for ES builds.
IGN: Arlianth
Check out my LA build: 1782214

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