Clarification: minus max resists + elemental weakness: calculation question

DISCUSSION TOPIC: OPTIMIZING RESISTS AGAINST MAPS WITH MINUS MAX RESISTS + ELE WEAK
EDIT: I apologize for the all caps.

For maps with the mods "minus maximum player resistances" and "players cursed with elemental weakness," what is the order in which the overall resistance penalty is calculated?

A) Are the resists first deducted from maximum cap? Then, Elemental Weakness deduction calculated?

OR

B) Is Elemental Weakness first deducted from your resistances, followed by decrease in your maximum resist cap.

For example

If my marauder has 150% Resists for Fire/Cold/Lightning with the resistance cap at 77%, and I enter a map with -25% maximum resists and level 15 (-44% resists) elemental weakness curse...
Will (A) or (B) happen?

A) 77% minus 25% = 52%, then -44% = 8% final resists

OR

B) 150% minus 44% = 106%, then -25% = 81 resists = 77% final resists

this thread... wow

do you have to use all caps?
the answer is B ofc

Actually, the answer is C (Not listed.)

Min Max resistance = Min Max resistance.

So, 77- 25 = 52 Max resists.

Then Ele weakness is calculated from your overcapped stats

So 150- 44 = 106 resists, but they are capped at 52.

It is for this reason, if you are going to run Min Max resists, you might as well stack it with ele weakness.

Just min max = 52% all res

Just Ele weakness = still 77% all res, because over capped

BOTH = 52% all res.

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reboticon wrote:

Actually, the answer is C (Not listed.)

Min Max resistance = Min Max resistance.

So, 77- 25 = 52 Max resists.

Then Ele weakness is calculated from your overcapped stats

So 150- 44 = 106 resists, but they are capped at 52.

It is for this reason, if you are going to run Min Max resists, you might as well stack it with ele weakness.

Just min max = 52% all res

Just Ele weakness = still 77% all res, because over capped

BOTH = 52% all res.

Then Ele weakness is calculated from your overcapped stats
That's what I was suspecting.
MIN MAX RESISTS versus Elemental Weakness have completely separate calculations.

THANK YOU!

all your calculations aside, ele weakness and -resist dont stack in maps.

thanks guys!

So how much overcapped resists is the current gold standard?

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thrawnx wrote:

all your calculations aside, ele weakness and -resist dont stack in maps.

Can someone double-check this?
I'm googling this right now.

So, what's the gold standard range of resists?

Because based on your feedback, I surmise that once you have enough resists to counteract Elemental Weakness (level 15 = -44% resists), then that's all you can possibly do. Nothing can be done about Min Max Resists other than speccing into Purity and Elemental Adaptation.

Is this interpretation flawed?

He means they don't stack like in your examples. You can roll them on the same map.

Yes Purity + ele adaptation.

Ele weakness/min max resists are not that big of deal in a lot of maps, but in maps with like Arc Mages, or a crazy boss like Fire Fury, they are a big deal, and generally you just end up skipping the boss unless you are really confident.

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reboticon wrote:

He means they don't stack like in your examples. You can roll them on the same map.

Yes Purity + ele adaptation.

Ele weakness/min max resists are not that big of deal in a lot of maps, but in maps with like Arc Mages, or a crazy boss like Fire Fury, they are a big deal, and generally you just end up skipping the boss unless you are really confident.

And for all of these calculation, I completely forgot about factoring in the Merciless -60% resist penalty. That's subtractive and not multiplicative, correct?