Evasion and taken chaos damage question

Does evasion evade chaos damage or not?

Im a low life build and i want to know if going iron reflex worth it

From what I know Evasion is used to calculate Attacks. So the higher your evasion, the harder your enemies will hit you

correct me guys if I'm wrong

yes u can evade chaos attacks and with phase acrobatics even chaos spells . However most chaos damage sources u will encounter are either degen (chaos bears , poison arrow) or chaos spells like vaal constructs or chaos bomber ones and ofc viper strike stacks.

Evasion only protects u vs chaos attacks and that kind of attack is pretty rare and its used only by bandits and a few other kind of monsters , u wont get phase acrobatics for sure soo yea evasion doesnt really help u that much but in case u are in need of points and u got some other way of mitigating high phys hits i would just stick with evasion.

No special rules apply, if its an attack you can evade it.

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Qarak wrote:

From what I know Evasion is used to calculate Attacks. So the higher your evasion, the harder your enemies will hit you

correct me guys if I'm wrong

Pretty sure this is incorrect. Evasion has nothing to do with how hard the hits are.

The basics of it is, there are three kinds of damage sources in the game:

1) Attacks
2) Spells
3) Damage over Time effects

Evasion (and Armor) only impact the first. Evasion is a all or nothing calculation based on your evasion rating against the enemies accuracy rating. Armor reduces the amount of physical damage you take from attacks in proportion to armor vs the physical damage of the hit, once the hit is confirmed to have hit.

Dodge is another, separate calculation independent of evasion (I know, confusing) that does not take into account the enemies accuracy rating at all. Dodge can only come from Acrobatics (either the passive or from unique.) Spell Dodge is the only way for a spell attack to completely 'miss' and only comes from the passive, as far as I'm aware.

So, evasion will help you avoid Chaos (or any elemental) damage so long as it is delivered via an attack, but not otherwise. For example, if the enemy is using Viper Strike, evasion will grant you a chance to evade the actual VS hit, but if it does hit then it does nothing against the DOT effect that comes from it.

Thx allot guys... going to do Iron reflex then XD

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kaross579 wrote:

Evasion has nothing to do with how hard the hits are.

But I said

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the higher your evasion, the harder your enemies will hit you

that means "Your enemies will hit you less times if you have a lot of evasion"
not that will hit you hard, lol

No it literally means your enemies will hit you harder, as in for more damage. What you meant to say was "it will be harder for enemies to hit you"

but to be fair, I also knew what you meant to say when I read it.

There is something other than chaos damage that sucks for evasion...actually 2 things.

1. Puncture - if you get hit with this you better have flask ready to end it. With low armor this will bleed you dry FAST.

2. Ethereal Knives - As far as I can tell, from unfortunate encounters with that knife throwing ass in Sarn City, Armor must reduce the damage of this Physical Damage Spell. With out it you take full damage, oh and it's a sell, so you can't evade it. I haven't fought her yet but doesn't the new Weaver have an EK based spell? If I am right about armor mitigating this damage then pure evasion needs to be very, very careful around this spell.

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MadBro_ wrote:

yes u can evade chaos attacks and with phase acrobatics even chaos spells . However most chaos damage sources u will encounter are either degen (chaos bears , poison arrow) or chaos spells like vaal constructs or chaos bomber ones and ofc viper strike stacks.

Evasion only protects u vs chaos attacks and that kind of attack is pretty rare and its used only by bandits and a few other kind of monsters , u wont get phase acrobatics for sure soo yea evasion doesnt really help u that much but in case u are in need of points and u got some other way of mitigating high phys hits i would just stick with evasion.

Just a note regarding vipers. At least those poison spitting ones in the forest are projectile-attacks. (good for evasion)
Otherwise I couldn't explain why I can stand in the middle of 10-15 of these snakes and getting hit only every once in a while (with Ondars Guile, doubled projectile-evasion).

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Xalmaren wrote:

There is something other than chaos damage that sucks for evasion...actually 2 things.

Lol
Thanks for correcting my bad english