gating rare tablets behind arbiter is unfair

arbiter is the biggest BS boss fight ever. i dont think it even matters what build or class you play. if you cant dodge his multiple 1 shot mechanics you will fail the fight. i had one friend who has nerve damage in his hand so he simply cant dodge his attacks fast enough. even with infinite portals he couldnt complete this fight so he just uninstalled the game.
unless you have good mechanical skills and fast reflexes this fight is really hard. why gate rare tablets behind this? running rare tablets is pretty much mandatory if you want loot. if you are using blue tablets, you are wasting your time. i dont think buying a carry would work because people would still need to dodge all his 1 shot mechanics unless the carry can 1 shot arbiter.

why punish casuals and less skilled players like this? or these players are not meant to use rare tablets? they should just be happy with mediocre loot from their maps?

I don't like this, either.

Not everyone likes doing big bosses. I've never chased citadels nor fought Arbiter, because it's just not something I enjoy. But trying to incentivize players to do content by increasing its reward is a design mistake.

Like... imagine there is some made up recurring event called... I dunno "Heckwaves". Let's say it's not your cup of tea, but the devs make it so that you can only get regals by doing "heckwaves". Does that make the event more fun? Or does it make it a mandatory chore?

Arbiter gating 4 mod tablets is creating a huge chore, not fun.

A corollary to this is that if an event is fun, players will do it, even if there are no loot rewards.

i dont like the ideology of "beat endgame to farm", i prefer "farm to beat endgame".
Not a fan of gating farming behind any bosses.

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vzmNitie#2139 wrote:

i dont like the ideology of "beat endgame to farm", i prefer "farm to beat endgame".
Not a fan of gating farming behind any bosses.

+1

I hate when games lock goodies behind final bosses and the like. Great, I now can make rare tablets, but I've already done everything the game had to offer, so there's no point.

Arbiter is easy and his skills are pretty easy to dodge too
The problem is when you deal X amounts of damage in a short span, that's when the game starts doing this weird thing where he throws all of his skills at the same time including the one shots, i had the dude throwing meteors while inside the corridor mechanic, complete junk of a fight. (no lag, or desync)

You can kill him day 1 or day 2 at worst with an average build, wyvern and poisonburst can delete the fight right after interludes.

Locking tablets behind this fight is perfectly fine, tablets are powerful after the buffs and killing arbiter should always be the goal on any of your characters.

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Lingering#2439 wrote:

Arbiter is easy and his skills are pretty easy to dodge too
The problem is when you deal X amounts of damage in a short span, that's when the game starts doing this weird thing where he throws all of his skills at the same time including the one shots, i had the dude throwing meteors while inside the corridor mechanic, complete junk of a fight. (no lag, or desync)

You can kill him day 1 or day 2 at worst with an average build, wyvern and poisonburst can delete the fight right after interludes.

Locking tablets behind this fight is perfectly fine, tablets are powerful after the buffs and killing arbiter should always be the goal on any of your characters.

build or gear doesnt matter if you cant dodge his mechanics. thats the point of this thread. they gate rare tablets behind the players ability to dodge. and not just dodge once or twice, its a full wave of dodges, if you just miss one of them you get 1 shot. its BS because some people have disabilities or just suck at mechanical fights

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vzmNitie#2139 wrote:

i dont like the ideology of "beat endgame to farm", i prefer "farm to beat endgame".
Not a fan of gating farming behind any bosses.

Wow, that's a great point!

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

build or gear doesnt matter if you cant dodge his mechanics. thats the point of this thread. they gate rare tablets behind the players ability to dodge. and not just dodge once or twice, its a full wave of dodges, if you just miss one of them you get 1 shot. its BS because some people have disabilities or just suck at mechanical fights

Yeah, sadly very true. I have older friends from PoE1, who I don't see in PoE2. They said they just can't manage the twitch control. They have arthritis and what not. This is a huge shame, because they are really smart, and they otherwise really enjoy the depth of PoE design.

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vzmNitie#2139 wrote:

i dont like the ideology of "beat endgame to farm", i prefer "farm to beat endgame".
Not a fan of gating farming behind any bosses.

I enjoy both the sentiment and brevity of this statement.

I'm going to steal it lol. Thanks!

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Lingering#2439 wrote:

Arbiter is easy and his skills are pretty easy to dodge too
The problem is when you deal X amounts of damage in a short span, that's when the game starts doing this weird thing where he throws all of his skills at the same time including the one shots, i had the dude throwing meteors while inside the corridor mechanic, complete junk of a fight. (no lag, or desync)

You can kill him day 1 or day 2 at worst with an average build, wyvern and poisonburst can delete the fight right after interludes.

Locking tablets behind this fight is perfectly fine, tablets are powerful after the buffs and killing arbiter should always be the goal on any of your characters.

Yet here I am, 5-10 screens away from home in various directions on the atlas, and have yet to find a single tower that awards a fragment, even to try it. It is an idiotic design. Not everything should have to be bought and sold in the game.

Admittedly, the complaint would probably be moot if we got our endgame rework like promised.

Not happy either with that.
Was really disapointed when they did the stream. I was expecting something to make end game better, that was the only thing they came up with because the rest is delayed.

I tought i'll make the effort, went to kill him in standard, i have all my atlas points now there and the quest to kill him is done. But i cant upgrade my tablet because it say i have to kill the arbiter first...

So yeah, thanks GGG... 100% worst boss fight design in the entire game but i guess i'll go again one day, eventualy.

I'm 100% not killing arbiter every single league. Finding your first citadelle at lvl 95 if you're lucky.
Amazing gate lock...