Every "casual" endgame mapping strat is pointless compared to yellow juice harvest

I'm talking specifically here about standard because I quit the "purple blob destroying half of my map" league.

"Alch and go" harvest is so far above all other mapping moneymaking strats with these giant loot nerfs that it's comical. I mean full atlas harvest nodes, whatever scarabs in the device (no need for doubling), find grove, do a tier 3 yellow node for 500 yellow juice, finish map.

Congratulations, I made more "divines per hour" than any other strat. I was bored and tried a T16.5 full strongbox atlas + map device right now with a "very strict" default setting loot filter. Average result is a mountain of rare items ("lol we don't pick up wearable drops in POE"), common divination cards, and 3 chaos orbs if the game is generous.

Any time I do something that is not harvest the thought runs through my mind of "you know you could just switch back to harvest with LITERALLY ANY MAP DEVICE and be making divines now right?"

Please do something because I'm sick of playing "path of harvest" since settlers league when I started to take POE endgame "seriously", but given the mindset of the devs here I just added another data point for yellow juice gamba being destroyed in the near future.

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

Every "casual" endgame mapping strat is pointless compared to yellow juice harvest

Not true.

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Fapmobile#0758 wrote:

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

Every "casual" endgame mapping strat is pointless compared to yellow juice harvest

Not true.

What did you expect? OP have:

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Complete collective Explicit Modifiers of Tier 14 or Higher Maps (9/1,000)

OP did two t14+ maps total. It would be nice if he would say what strats he tried, on what setup, for how many hours, and what map tiers, and how many maps per hour... But thats not the point of the topic. It was to run one map and to complain.

If you think you have "cracked the code" and found the most effective farm of the league shouldn't you be happily doing it instead of complaining?

The market in Standard focuses on items that retain or increase their value. The only two types of items that do that are legacy items and mirrors (+locks). As a result, farms that focus on mirrors are in higher demand.

An alternative to yellow juice card duping for mirrors are Kingsmarch crop shipments for shards. These require gold and dust. Right now basically all top-end strats especially for gold and dust are based on allflames which are very straight-forward to farm.
Just rush safehouses. No reason to learn the betrayal relationships or special rewards, just fill the safehouse bar.

There are other strats like deli orb or Maven chisel hunting and (div scarab of) plenty more. All of them are straight-forward with low entry cost and match the profitability of harvest.

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Nomancs#6176 wrote:

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Fapmobile#0758 wrote:

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mnieradko#6070 wrote:

Every "casual" endgame mapping strat is pointless compared to yellow juice harvest

Not true.

What did you expect? OP have:

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Complete collective Explicit Modifiers of Tier 14 or Higher Maps (9/1,000)

OP did two t14+ maps total. It would be nice if he would say what strats he tried, on what setup, for how many hours, and what map tiers, and how many maps per hour... But thats not the point of the topic. It was to run one map and to complain.

I don't know if it's more amusing or unsettling to go to the effort of rifling through someone's profile to make a point without reading literally the first sentence of their post..

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ladish#6213 wrote:

I don't know if it's more amusing or unsettling to go to the effort of rifling through someone's profile to make a point without reading literally the first sentence of their post..

Ye, that was my bad.

Because you’re playing in Standard, it’s hardly surprising that almost nothing carries real value.

The league is perpetually oversaturated with items, so outside of gambling and legacy pieces, demand is effectively nonexistent. In an environment like that, even a perfectly “natural” approach to the market won’t turn a profit, simply because there’s no meaningful demand for nearly anything.

why does anyone need to "compare" mapping strats to begin with?

First and foremost is FUN. What do you find FUN to do?
Secondly, what do you NEED? You know that "trade value" is only as important as YOU personally make it right? Everything can be found and grinded by yourself.

And then FINALLY, you can talk about profit. But you also need to talk about how much profit do you REALLY need? Is doing the better profit strategy, but hating it, going to meaningfully save you actual time before your next upgrade?


Divs per Hour is such a STUPID way to look at and play the game. And this is like multiplied by a thousand if you are choosing to play in standard.

Yellow Harvest farm is top strat for any league that's been going on for longer than a month. Everything becomes saturated later into a league items just aren't worth nearly as much as when the league was fresh. Harvest juice can be used to create multiple items that value goes up like mirror and mageblood so harvest juice goes up in value also.

Really yellow juice it's one of the things that keeps players playing the leagues after the hype train leaves. So I don't really see it as a problem besides possibly more league mechanics should do something like it in terms of value offered.