Thaumaturgic Dust and the Problem with T0/T1 Uniques

As seen from the content reveal Thaumaturgic Dust is back for shipping and recombinating.
I assume you can still dust Uniques, which brings up the problem.

Most T1/T0 uniques are basically just a token for dust. You drop this rare unique and you basically just dropped 300k dust.

Before 3.25 devs were bothered by the fact that most T0/T1 uniques were 1C items so they introduced a clever bandaid solution to make them more valuable. Now it's 3.26 and that bandaid hasn't been removed and the real problem remains.

Most T0/T1 are not good enough. Instead of fixing this problem by changing rarity/tiers or buffing them, the bandaid remains.

My hope would be to smooth the "dustcurve" you get from uniques, so T2 to T0 isn't such a big jump and increase the dust you get from rares. (dusting rares is a waste of gold atm)

This brings back bad memories. What a waste of time to actively trade for uniques to dust them. The moment i started to do the 50/50 dust crops 50 mio shipments things went down for me ;P Dust is just a big bait mechanic. Do yourself a favor and ignore Kingsmarch in that regard xd It is not healthy and leads to frustration. In ssf ore vs body armour bases is kind of nice, but they should have indeed removed crops and dust fro mthe game...

Things like that are ok if the rules are clear. But we do not know how dust really works the rules are unknown. I will stay away from it if it even becomes a thing this next league, because dust was clearly not worth shipping in large amounts and investing huge amounts of divs for.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

This brings back bad memories. What a waste of time to actively trade for uniques to dust them. The moment i started to do the 50/50 dust crops 50 mio shipments things went down for me ;P Dust is just a big bait mechanic. Do yourself a favor and ignore Kingsmarch in that regard xd It is not healthy and leads to frustration. In ssf ore vs body armour bases is kind of nice, but they should have indeed removed crops and dust fro mthe game...

Things like that are ok if the rules are clear. But we do not know how dust really works the rules are unknown. I will stay away from it if it even becomes a thing this next league, because dust was clearly not worth shipping in large amounts and investing huge amounts of divs for.

its just rng. I was doing them too and had 3 4 1 2 0 mirror shards respectively.

I scooped up lots of cheap t0 uniques very early in the league where they were costing just around 40 chaos orbs each. Stocked up for about 5 full shipments and reaped the profits later on. That was on Phercia event where I knew how ships work and how t0 uniques will price hike a lot once people catch on.

It's not advisable to buy them for 3-4 div each cos you can get rekt by rng and lose currency. At that point you just wait longer and send off pure 50M crops.

what is really bad is that these bad T0 uniques that could have been nice 'starting endgame weapons' (like Lioneyes) are now priced higher than rares that beat them

it actually hurt mid-level players. these T0 uniques are mostly strictly and unquestionably worse than even mid-tier rares, but there is always double-corrupt potential and they are good enough to kickstart the build

when i tried manaforged arrows for the first time I wanted to use Lioneyes (and it solves accuracy/blind) - to my surprise the price was riddiculous, got myself 900pdps bow instead for cheaper

so yeah. this bandaid is just that. sad to see disenchanting in the game

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

it actually hurt mid-level players. these T0 uniques are mostly strictly and unquestionably worse than even mid-tier rares, but there is always double-corrupt potential and they are good enough to kickstart the build

what an odd thing to say......"strictly and unquestionably worse" yet "double-corrupt potential". You do realize potential means they AREN'T strictly and unquestionably worse lol. Both cannot be true.

The only "strictly and unquestionably worse" unique in that scenario is one that is ALREADY corrupted. And those pre-corrupted items tend to be priced cheaper.


Also you used a terrible example: lioneye's vision is hard to compete with in the mid-tier, given the ingrown hits can't be evaded mod. Not having to build accuracy is a HUGE tangential power increase via passives, auras, and other gearing. Not to mention that Far Shot is ridiculously powerful assuming you account for it in how you play.

Also I cast doubt on you getting a 900dps bow for LESS than a Lioneye. Quite a lot of doubt.

and yet i bought 900pdps uncorrupted 6link bow for cheaper than the cheapest Lioneye on the market

previous leagues i bought near perfect Lioneyes for 20c

current situation is ridiculous

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sidtherat#1310 wrote:

and yet i bought 900pdps uncorrupted 6link bow for cheaper than the cheapest Lioneye on the market

previous leagues i bought near perfect Lioneyes for 20c

current situation is ridiculous

yep, that is also very unfortunate. A bow like that should be a go to placeholder unique for a player that wants to spend some hard earned currency but can't afford to craft/buy the real good rares yet.

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Esubane#6099 wrote:

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

This brings back bad memories. What a waste of time to actively trade for uniques to dust them. The moment i started to do the 50/50 dust crops 50 mio shipments things went down for me ;P Dust is just a big bait mechanic. Do yourself a favor and ignore Kingsmarch in that regard xd It is not healthy and leads to frustration. In ssf ore vs body armour bases is kind of nice, but they should have indeed removed crops and dust fro mthe game...

Things like that are ok if the rules are clear. But we do not know how dust really works the rules are unknown. I will stay away from it if it even becomes a thing this next league, because dust was clearly not worth shipping in large amounts and investing huge amounts of divs for.

its just rng. I was doing them too and had 3 4 1 2 0 mirror shards respectively.

I scooped up lots of cheap t0 uniques very early in the league where they were costing just around 40 chaos orbs each. Stocked up for about 5 full shipments and reaped the profits later on. That was on Phercia event where I knew how ships work and how t0 uniques will price hike a lot once people catch on.

It's not advisable to buy them for 3-4 div each cos you can get rekt by rng and lose currency. At that point you just wait longer and send off pure 50M crops.

That ship has litterally sailed, pun intented... but thanks anyway xd i do not want to bother with that again ;P

it got worse actually, i was sharding the squire. Many copies of it actually.
to think i grinded like 200 exalted in 3.16 to buy it, and now i just disenchant it for some dust lol.

idk why squire fell off the meta. it never got nerfed, still has 3 white sockets and a gem quality mod too.