Regional Bazaar - AH-lite Alternative (GGG Compromise)

The ability to trade any item is a fundamental part of why people enjoy PoE2. As GGG supports trading via their official trading website, I would like to propose to the devs to add an in-game AH-lite alternative, called the "Regional Bazaar."

Goal of the Regional Bazaar is to create numerous markets across Wraeclast, thus maintaining some degree of “friction” to trading. One Bazaar is not connected to any other Bazaar located in a different zone (e.g. do not offer same items for auction). This will make it so trading is not too easy, but offers trading functionality in-game. There would be one Regional Bazaar per Act, thus making six completely different markets as follows:

Regional Bazaars
* Act 1, Clearfell Bazaar
* Act 2, Ardura Bazaar
* Act 3, Ziggurat Bazaar
* Acts 4-6, Town Bazaars

To access the Regional Bazaar, players would visit the Bazaar Merchant in town. Bazaars use gold earned in-game to facilitate trading to allow players to put items up for auction, bid and buyout.

Unless GGG changed their stance according to the published Trade Manifesto, they did mention while easy trading sounds great on paper, they have many concerns. Regional Bazaars would alleviate some of those concerns raised by GGG and would be a good compromise.

Trade Manifesto
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870
Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on May 20, 2025, 2:59:17 PM
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I wanted to mention that I think GGG wants players present for the transaction to maintain “friction” in trading, and think having six different markets where players have to be in a particular Act to trade resembles that friction to some degree.
Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on May 20, 2025, 7:54:57 AM
No!

Get me a proper, functioning AH. That's it. I'm sick of this "compromise culture" and "minimum viable product" bs.

Every single bs is coming from the same rotten hivemind philosophy: friction on top of friction.

* Forcing players to crawling speeds in a game full of one-shots.
* Forced immunity phases
* Random layouts
* Almost non-existent player agency
* Over-reliance on third party tools
* Unfun layouts with gazillion impassable holes, walls, objects...

The list keeps going and going and people are already talking about compromise.

No!

This is still an early access title. Problems can still be solved completely. Compromise is for unsolvable or much bigger, post-release problems. If we start compromising now... You get the idea.

Frankly, most of the current problems have already been solved in the industry. Let's forget about the industry and look at what GGG have already done.

Look at what PoE 1 is. Then improve it in every possible way. The fight against PoE 1 is ruining PoE 2. If you have to fight, Fight against the "bad" sides of PoE 1, not all of it.

That is what I want.

But before anything else, developers in general should remember this:

I'm not playing a video game to entertain the "monsters". It is the other way around.

Entertain "ME".

I repeat.

I want a proper, functioning auction house so that I can spend my time playing the actual game -having fun- rather than wasting time on already-solved-problems or concepts.

Sorry if this sounds too harsh or uncompromising and hurts anyone's feelings but this is what I think and what I believe.

"Compromise" to the point of "barely functional" is not a good thing. It has never been!
Last edited by Rialian1905#1715 on May 20, 2025, 8:39:31 AM
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No!

Get me a proper, functioning AH. That's it. I'm sick of this "compromise culture" and "minimum viable product" bs.

Every single bs is coming from the same rotten hivemind philosophy: friction on top of friction.

* Forcing players to crawling speeds in a game full of one-shots.
* Forced immunity phases
* Random layouts
* Almost non-existent player agency
* Over-reliance on third party tools
* Unfun layouts with gazillion impassable holes, walls, objects...

The list keeps going and going and people are already talking about compromise.

No!

Well said.

This is still an early access title. Problems can still be solved completely. Compromise is for unsolvable or much bigger, post-release problems. If we start compromising now... You get the idea.

Frankly, most of the current problems have already been solved in the industry. Let's forget about the industry and look at what GGG have already done.

Look at what PoE 1 is. Then improve it in every possible way. The fight against PoE 1 is ruining PoE 2. If you have to fight, Fight against the "bad" sides of PoE 1, not all of it.

That is what I want.

But before anything else, developers in general should remember this:

I'm not playing a video game to entertain the "monsters". It is the other way around.

Entertain "ME".

I repeat.

I want a proper, functioning auction house so that I can spend my time playing the actual game -having fun- rather than wasting time on already-solved-problems or concepts.

Sorry if this sounds too harsh or uncompromising and hurts anyone's feelings but this is what I think and what I believe.

"Compromise" to the point of "barely functional" is not a good thing. It has never been!
Well said
Unless their vision has changed, according to GGG in their Trade Manifesto, they mentioned while easy trade sounds great on paper, they had many concerns. I think a compromise is justified in this case.
Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on May 20, 2025, 2:51:43 PM
Six AHs,so basically first 5 wont be used and some that think they might find on first 5 will waste their time...This is like one of worst things I have read,ever.




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No!

Get me a proper, functioning AH. That's it. I'm sick of this "compromise culture" and "minimum viable product" bs.

Every single bs is coming from the same rotten hivemind philosophy: friction on top of friction.

* Forcing players to crawling speeds in a game full of one-shots.
* Forced immunity phases
* Random layouts
* Almost non-existent player agency
* Over-reliance on third party tools
* Unfun layouts with gazillion impassable holes, walls, objects...

The list keeps going and going and people are already talking about compromise.

No!

This is still an early access title. Problems can still be solved completely. Compromise is for unsolvable or much bigger, post-release problems. If we start compromising now... You get the idea.

Frankly, most of the current problems have already been solved in the industry. Let's forget about the industry and look at what GGG have already done.

Look at what PoE 1 is. Then improve it in every possible way. The fight against PoE 1 is ruining PoE 2. If you have to fight, Fight against the "bad" sides of PoE 1, not all of it.

That is what I want.

But before anything else, developers in general should remember this:

I'm not playing a video game to entertain the "monsters". It is the other way around.

Entertain "ME".

I repeat.

I want a proper, functioning auction house so that I can spend my time playing the actual game -having fun- rather than wasting time on already-solved-problems or concepts.

Sorry if this sounds too harsh or uncompromising and hurts anyone's feelings but this is what I think and what I believe.

"Compromise" to the point of "barely functional" is not a good thing. It has never been!


I can't agree enough with you, but at the same time i understand why op proposed an AH system with compromises, bcs this is the only way for us to get a chance to have something a little bit better
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Vyend#2601 wrote:


i understand why op proposed an AH system with compromises, bcs this is the only way for us to get a chance to have something a little bit better


I think people that expect a hardline take on AH is disingenuous and outright ignores GGG concerns on easy trading. I think proposing AH system with compromise is more likely to be implemented.
Last edited by CharlesJT#7681 on May 20, 2025, 2:40:43 PM
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Vyend#2601 wrote:


i understand why op proposed an AH system with compromises, bcs this is the only way for us to get a chance to have something a little bit better


I think people that expect a hardline take on AH is disingenuous and outright ignores GGG concerns on easy trading. I think proposing AH system with compromise is more likely to be implemented.


[Removed by Support] Because theres literally no way an AH would do anything but 'good' for genuine players, while at the same time, cutting into the RMT'ers 'control' as they have it atm.

Dont get me wrong, there is ALWAYS going to be fixers, etc. But, its much harder to fix and control on a live open AH, then it is a 'not so friendly' 'lots wont even touch it' trade site. The current trade setup just seems 100% rigged for RMT. Reminds me literally , of D2JSP.

Perhaps the biggest smack will be, they wont be able to list for 1ex, and ignore every msg. That in itself, would be a giant slap in the face to 'that crowd'.

But for all the years i have been around, it seems like GGG is actually slapping us normal non rmt'ers in the face with most of their implmentations.
GGG - Why you no?
Last edited by Yrone_GGG#9576 on May 20, 2025, 2:53:17 PM

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