Ascendancy Points post 0.2.0

Good morning,

I have some issues with how the progression for the points is going after the 0.2.0.

Before, we actually had a progression -> Trial of Sekhmet = 2 points -> Trial of Chaos = 2 points -> next 2 points either 3 rooms Sekhmet or 7 rooms Chaos -> last 2 points either 4 rooms Sekhmet or 10 rooms into Trial master.

Now the last 4 points are locked behind 4 rooms Sekhmet and 10 rooms Trial master which just removed the progression curve completely from 4->6->8 and instead just goes straight into endgame difficulty between 4 and 8 points.

The last 2 points were already kind of a pain to grind pre 0.2.0 but now it's just not fun anymore whatsoever and feels more like a chore than an actual challenge with a good progression behind it.

Aside from that, this delays the progression in power by quite a bit as you miss out on 2 points within the Ascendancy tree between mid to late endgame.

Now i can't confirm every class but for the Huntress at least those 2 points feel like they're missing in the progression curve from mid to late endgame.

Might not be a lot but with all the issues currently, this does not make it better.

Happy Eastern.

I would like to know where in the progression curve ascendancies are even supposed to fall. First 3 ascendancies are easy. The difficulty level for 4th ascendancy however is so high you pretty much have to have an almost finished character/build to even attempt it.

Imho ascendancies should be something that will allow you to tackle higher tier maps and bosses not something at the very end.

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seaman#4993 wrote:

1st Ascendancy
Trial of Sekhemas - quest Balbala's Barya or 1st floor in any Djinn Barya.
Trial of Chaos - quest Ultimatum or 4 trials in any ultimatum.

2nd Ascendancy
Trial of Sekhemas - 2 floor in Djinn Barya lvl 45+.
Trial of Chaos - quest Ultimatum or 7 trials in ultimatum lvl 60+.

3rd Ascendancy
Trial of Sekhemas - 3 floor in Djinn Barya lvl 60+.
Trial of Chaos - 10 trials in ultimatum lvl 75+.

4th Ascendancy
Trial of Sekhemas - 4 floor in Djinn Barya lvl 75+ (Zarokh, the Temporal).
Trial of Chaos - Trialmaster (3 fragments from 10th trial in ultimatum lvl 75+).

this is outdated

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3762929

- Trials of Chaos that have 7 chambers and thus grant up to 4 Ascendancy Passive Skill Points now can be attempted from level 55, down from 60.

- Trials of Chaos that have 10 chambers and thus grant up to 6 Ascendancy Passive Skill Points can now be attempted from level 65, down from 75.

i'd love if they'd just rework the ascendancy stuff as a whole.
imho it's by far the worst part of the entire game. i wouldn't even touch a game that revolves around such rng-stuff. i hate every second of it.
i have 0 issues if it stays in the game as additional endgame content or that, i just hate it's mandatory for character progression.

i'd love some "meaningful trials" pls <3

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seaman#4993 wrote:

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Naztrey#9177 wrote:

this is outdated

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3762929

- Trials of Chaos that have 7 chambers and thus grant up to 4 Ascendancy Passive Skill Points now can be attempted from level 55, down from 60.

- Trials of Chaos that have 10 chambers and thus grant up to 6 Ascendancy Passive Skill Points can now be attempted from level 65, down from 75.

This refers to character level, not ultimatum lvl.

ah the coins haven't changed in that regard?
didn't know. thx 4 info.

just shows how much i hate this rng stuff.

While I'm sure the DEVs have different thoughts I'd prefer something similar to PoE1 in terms of when you ascend.

1st Ascension : Level 35 ish? (Late act 2??)
2nd: Level 50ish? (A2 Cruel?)
3rd: Level 65 ish? (Roughly end-of-campaign gearing / level or early maps)
4th: Level 85 ish? (Just before you start trying to hit end-game??)


To be honest though if there are four ascensions then I'd like at least a choice of FOUR different sets of trials.

Leaving in Sekhemas & Chaos actually make sense to me as those trials (mostly) stress different parts of the build.

Sekhemas is about burst damage & HIT (damage) avoidance.
Chaos is about screenwide, consistent damage WITH lots of mitigation & recovery


As for the two new ascension trials maybe have a modified LAB from PoE2 come back which stresses ailment avoidance, ailment mitigation, and recovery WITH a curated boss fight at the end of any lab.

For the final ascension trial maybe have a highly modified ToTA where you act as general of a team of minions (that you build / select) and you are responsible for having them guard your base AND attack an enemy base.


Last I wouldn't mind seeing a "Hey I'm playing the game" type of catchall. If you can beat all of the "Tier 0" end-game bosses maybe that should qualify you to get all of your ascension points even if you didn't bother getting any earlier. If not that then maxing out the "basic" Atlas tree points or some other metric should allow for granting of ascension points.

i have leveled 15+ chars in standart and 3 in DoH.
1 ascendancy i completing at 23-25 lvl in act 2
2 ascendancy at 34-38 in act 3
3 ascendancy in sekhem at 70-75
4 zarok at lvl 85+