how to quickly make the trading website much better

Hello.
I just thought about how to quickly make the trading experience much better:
Simply let us directly buy items on https://de.pathofexile.com/trade2 without the need to manually exchange them ingame. So instead of clicking the "whisper"-button, I would just click a "buy"-button and automatically the currency from my inventory or chest would be delivered to other the player and from their chest, I would get my item.
This would solve many problems like players being afk, refusing to sell at the listed price, etc. and also would make the trading process much quicker and comfortable.

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Sophianna#0164 wrote:

Hello.
I just thought about how to quickly make the trading experience much better:
Simply let us directly buy items on https://de.pathofexile.com/trade2 without the need to manually exchange them ingame. So instead of clicking the "whisper"-button, I would just click a "buy"-button and automatically the currency from my inventory or chest would be delivered to other the player and from their chest, I would get my item.
This would solve many problems like players being afk, refusing to sell at the listed price, etc. and also would make the trading process much quicker and comfortable.

Im pretty sure thats on purpose.

The problem is that if you make everything too convenient and easy you will actually kill the game.

This is an ARPG with lots of loot and crafting. If there is an easy fast way to get everything instantly it will take away a lot from the game.

I think a perfect example was Diablo 3 at the beginning with their AH. Instead of improving the game it did hurt it a lot. If you can buy the best gear for your level at any point - there pretty much is almost nothing you can drop that even is remotely interresting - especially while leveling. It also is bad for balancing and in a game where no item is bound it would be really bad.

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@Noctus If players want to trivialize the game merely buying a single good weapon is enough (and thats possible for the cheap price of 1-2 ex). I think making it tedious to trade is not the right way to go.
If the devs want to prevent players from making the game easy through trading, they need to tighten the level requirements for items a lot. This way players couldn't buy gear from much higher level content and equip it on their character. For endgame there could be a similiar limitation.
On the other hand its not a competitive game, so players can decide if they want to make their own game easy mode through trade or not.

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Sophianna#0164 wrote:

@Noctus If players want to trivialize the game merely buying a single good weapon is enough (and thats possible for the cheap price of 1-2 ex). I think making it tedious to trade is not the right way to go.
If the devs want to prevent players from making the game easy through trading, they need to tighten the level requirements for items a lot. This way players couldn't buy gear from much higher level content and equip it on their character. For endgame there could be a similiar limitation.
On the other hand its not a competitive game, so players can decide if they want to make their own game easy mode through trade or not.

This trading system probably already is a compromise.

Why should they change anything about the system when this one works perfectly well?

You can still do whatever you want to do - its just not implemented in the easiest way possible for a reason.


Did you play Diablo 3 at release? The AH was seriously the worst thing to ever happen to the genre.

The trade system is designed like this deliberately to make it a chore and present obstacles.

Automation leads to botting and market control. We have seen this in every single game that automates the payment and delivery of trade.

Last Epoch has a great solution, where each item can only be traded through the market once. After which it is bound to the player and can no longer be traded.

Opponents of this system would cite that trade facilitates player interaction, although anyone with enough years in online gaming knows that is mostly just a fanatsy. Trade will happen and that will be the only thing happening for 99% of trades.

And the human element, unsurprisingly, introduces room for scams and fraudulent activities.

But I guess that's the kind of environment GGG prefers.