Dodge roll is a trap for mapping

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

MELEE MONK PERSPECTIVE!

It is here and we have to deal with it or make a build that works without it.


Bosses:

Dodge roll works to a certain degree, You can roll out of certain attacks that would kill you otherwise. The lack distance rolled and animation lock of it is very deadly in many other cases. We can animation cancel our attack and DR, why cant we animation cancel DR and attack ?


Maps.

DR feels like a noob trap. You can use it only in campaign mob scaling. If i try to use it in a max rolled map with additional content then i will die because of it eventually. Most often before making to the boss. Here's why :

* Aggro range of packs and mob ability range.

If i use Shattering palm to close the distance, then i see the next pack that already aggroed on me, full with Slammers/Casters/Chargers/Ranged/Corpse exploders or at times Shield Chargers that have a cone slam attack after the charge, I HAVE TO DR to the side or I die. If there's no enough space to side DR (narrow place, bridge), I die. If by some miracle I'm alive after i DR backwards, I'm stuck in a DR retreat loop for, what feels like, half the map.

Ranged Do not have this issue since they can hit the backline.
Melee need the tools to get to the backline without the +2 seconds ability time, coz often times we are already getting hit in the face >.< , which means, it it aint instant, you will get stunned, frozen, flinched and die.

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

Ranged Do not have this issue since they can hit the backline.
Melee need the tools to get to the backline without the +2 seconds ability time, coz often times we are already getting hit in the face >.< , which means, it it aint instant, you will get stunned, frozen, flinched and die.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

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Kodavor#1200 wrote:

MELEE MONK PERSPECTIVE!

It is here and we have to deal with it or make a build that works without it.


Bosses:

Dodge roll works to a certain degree, You can roll out of certain attacks that would kill you otherwise. The lack distance rolled and animation lock of it is very deadly in many other cases. We can animation cancel our attack and DR, why cant we animation cancel DR and attack ?


Maps.

DR feels like a noob trap. You can use it only in campaign mob scaling. If i try to use it in a max rolled map with additional content then i will die because of it eventually. Most often before making to the boss. Here's why :

* Aggro range of packs and mob ability range.

If i use Shattering palm to close the distance, then i see the next pack that already aggroed on me, full with Slammers/Casters/Chargers/Ranged/Corpse exploders or at times Shield Chargers that have a cone slam attack after the charge, I HAVE TO DR to the side or I die. If there's no enough space to side DR (narrow place, bridge), I die. If by some miracle I'm alive after i DR backwards, I'm stuck in a DR retreat loop for, what feels like, half the map.

Ranged Do not have this issue since they can hit the backline.
Melee need the tools to get to the backline without the +2 seconds ability time, coz often times we are already getting hit in the face >.< , which means, it it aint instant, you will get stunned, frozen, flinched and die.

I echo basically everything. I had an Augury this morning with the Meteor casters, DD casters, exploding fungi bloater things, basically every on-death or big off-screen AoE mob I could think of.

Shut the game off and was done. Couple hours later...maybe I'll give one more map a try.

Narrow bridge, electric on-death magic group, zoom in, kill, dodge roll back (as you do) right onto a growing patch of purple flowers, shot by a dumb wildwood archer guy I could BARELY see on the farthest edge of my 21:9. Poof. Dead before dodge roll ended.

Alt-F4, uninstalled, done. There's zero fun in playing a game of russian roulette with yourself.