Shater, Explode & Culling not working with IIQ!!

Sorry for my bad english...:

Hi, I wanted reliable information from GGG or a link to a response from ggg on the subject:

People have said over the years that player item quantity doesn't work with the shater or explode mechanics.

In PoB, simulating with the IIQ gem, culling from a notable mark cluster does not work with IIQ either, only the IIQ of the player's items.

So the question remains, does culling work with everything except the legacy iiq gem? And shater and explode, is the quantity just for the map/mob, not even counting the quantity in items like Greed's Embrace?

thx!!

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Rato86 wrote:

In PoB, simulating with the IIQ gem, culling from a notable mark cluster does not work with IIQ either, only the IIQ of the player's items.

In the Calcs tab, did you select the skill linked to IIQ Support at the top of the page? Importing your character and adding culling did not seem to remove the IIQ that Spark got from IIQ Support.

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Jadian wrote:

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Rato86 wrote:

In PoB, simulating with the IIQ gem, culling from a notable mark cluster does not work with IIQ either, only the IIQ of the player's items.

In the Calcs tab, did you select the skill linked to IIQ Support at the top of the page? Importing your character and adding culling did not seem to remove the IIQ that Spark got from IIQ Support.

hey, thx for answer and help!


yes, when i select spark its shows correct item quantity, when i select sniper's mark culling (in my tornado shot char Rato Luthien char name), its dont show the iiq gem effect, (because its linked to TS, not to sniper's mark). So its work correct for culling, right?


but and about explode and shater? does it work with iiq or not?

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Rato86 wrote:

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Jadian wrote:

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Rato86 wrote:

In PoB, simulating with the IIQ gem, culling from a notable mark cluster does not work with IIQ either, only the IIQ of the player's items.

In the Calcs tab, did you select the skill linked to IIQ Support at the top of the page? Importing your character and adding culling did not seem to remove the IIQ that Spark got from IIQ Support.

yes, when i select spark its shows correct item quantity, when i select sniper's mark culling (in my tornado shot char Rato Luthien char name), its dont show the iiq gem effect, (because its linked to TS, not to sniper's mark). So its work correct for culling, right?

Simply importing Rato_Luthien, it doesn't show the effect of the iiq gem because that gem isn't currently in the bow. Adding it to Tornado Shot's links in the Skills tab does affect the iiq shown in the Calcs tab.

I would assume that IIQ Support works with culling, yes.

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Rato86 wrote:

but and about explode and shater? does it work with iiq or not?

That was something where I wasn't sure exactly how to respond, and still am not confident I've fully researched.

I'm not aware of discussion specific to IIQ/IIR not applying to shattered/exploded enemies. I know there have been issues with shattering/exploding before, but as far as I can recall those were instances where no loot was dropping at all.

Shield Crabs spawn Sand Spitters when killed normally, but that is skipped which the Shield Crab is killed and shattered/exploded. There was a fix for them not dropping anything in version 2.2.2; there were also issues with monsters not dropping Essences in Sanctum league that I believe was also Shield Crabs dying and being shattered/exploded.

There were also a few threads about shatter/explode preventing loot drops in Ancestor league, though I don't know if that was all loot or just particular extra loot (such as essences from essence monsters or breach splinters from breach monsters). While I couldn't find any related patch notes for this or for the issue in Sanctum league, I haven't seen related issues popping up every league, so I believe those are fixed.



I believe that kills which shatter/explode the corpse should apply all IIR/IIQ, including supports for the skill that killed the enemy.
Kills from explosions, such as from Herald of Ice, Asenath's Gentle Touch, or Inpulsa's Broken Heart, should apply player IIR/IIQ, but not from support gems--because the skill is no longer the damage source.

There shouldn't be anything special with shattering/exploding in regards to IIR/IIQ, and judging from the lack of bug reports, there don't seem to be any issues related to them this league.

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yes, when i select spark its shows correct item quantity, when i select sniper's mark culling (in my tornado shot char Rato Luthien char name), its dont show the iiq gem effect, (because its linked to TS, not to sniper's mark). So its work correct for culling, right?
Simply importing Rato_Luthien, it doesn't show the effect of the iiq gem because that gem isn't currently in the bow. Adding it to Tornado Shot's links in the Skills tab does affect the iiq shown in the Calcs tab.

I would assume that IIQ Support works with culling, yes.

yeah, i share my iiq gem with spark char, but hope its works when in bow with Tornado shot and culling from mark cluster... thx for help!!

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Jadian wrote:

That was something where I wasn't sure exactly how to respond, and still am not confident I've fully researched.

I'm not aware of discussion specific to IIQ/IIR not applying to shattered/exploded enemies. I know there have been issues with shattering/exploding before, but as far as I can recall those were instances where no loot was dropping at all.

Shield Crabs spawn Sand Spitters when killed normally, but that is skipped which the Shield Crab is killed and shattered/exploded. There was a fix for them not dropping anything in version 2.2.2; there were also issues with monsters not dropping Essences in Sanctum league that I believe was also Shield Crabs dying and being shattered/exploded.

There were also a few threads about shatter/explode preventing loot drops in Ancestor league, though I don't know if that was all loot or just particular extra loot (such as essences from essence monsters or breach splinters from breach monsters). While I couldn't find any related patch notes for this or for the issue in Sanctum league, I haven't seen related issues popping up every league, so I believe those are fixed.



I believe that kills which shatter/explode the corpse should apply all IIR/IIQ, including supports for the skill that killed the enemy.
Kills from explosions, such as from Herald of Ice, Asenath's Gentle Touch, or Inpulsa's Broken Heart, should apply player IIR/IIQ, but not from support gems--because the skill is no longer the damage source.

There shouldn't be anything special with shattering/exploding in regards to IIR/IIQ, and judging from the lack of bug reports, there don't seem to be any issues related to them this league.

Yeah, hope u right... im fear abour it because my spark use explode and shater... and now i did one TS MF and its use shater and culling...

thx for all help and patience with me bro!!

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