SRS damage conversion question.. how much fire and how much cold is it really ?

Hi,

I am not sure, how I should calculate my SRS-damage, especially with
some conversion going on. May be someone knows exactly how it works.


Basics - the easy part:

Damage type A: normal SRS attack damage, physical damage converted to 100% fire
damage
Damage type B: minion instability, 33% of minion life is converted to fire
damage, when the SRS explodes


So far so good. Nothing complicated here...


Now comes the damage conversion through gear + a hatred aura.. and I am a bit lost:


Gear damage conversion + Aura damage:

1. Sidehebreath: "Minions convert 50% of Physical Damage to Cold Damage"
"Minions deal no Non-Cold Damage"
"Minions deal (25-35) to (50-65) additional Cold Damage"

2. Grip of the council: "Minions gain 20% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage"

+

3. Hatred aura: "You and nearby allies gain (16-25)% of Physical Damage as Extra
Cold Damage"
"You and nearby allies deal (14-18)% more Cold Damage"


Assumptions: SRS life = 1000, SRS attack damage = 100, one SRS is present
Hatred aura does 20% extra cold damage



What and how much fire and cold damage I am doing ?
Which curse would be the best ? Elemental weakness, flammability or frostbite ?

Right now I am using Elemental weakness.


Who can help ?


Kind regards

I can help with some part,but not sure on 100%

Minion instability get scale from minion HP and minion damage and do fire damage.

During the conversion rule phys>lightning>cold>fire if you convert a 100% to fire - even if you get 50% phys to cold - you will still deal fire.(I may be wrong here,its how it works on normal spells).

Also gem have priority about conversion

But extra damage will be add . So im guess that you will deal flat cold damage + some part from extra damage with Sidehebreath . (minion instability will deal 0,i guess,you can try and check this in PoB)
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So as result you will deal 0 fire and only cold exrta+cold flat ( if im right)

P.s.
Imho its not the best combo for Sidehebreath. You can use some phys/cold spectre/golems of horde(stone/carrion/ice) and it would work better then srs. Cause if im right - you loosing all base fire damage. For Srs actually its may be not a problem if you stack a bunch of ghastly eye`s with a lot of flat,but its still lost a lot of performance.

Hi Berzal,

I still do fire explosion damage with my SRS. Just tested it.
+ I am using infernal legion support and my SRS do take damage
from it, so it means burning damage is working too. What I
dont know is, if it only works on minions, or does work on
the monsters too.


So, still no solution what my SRS are really doing with all
that damage conversion...

Just dont use that amulet with SRS. You will inherit a small portion of the cold damage from the conversion and from the phys as extra cold but you will be doing about 80% less damage because the only damage type you can do is cold.

@gladiatorpie

I am playing SSFHC + this char is now level 42 and it works well.

Secondly I defeniteley DO fire explosion damage, this I checked. So, are you trying to tell me I am doing now cold explosions with minion instabilty?
I am aware, that I will loose some parts of the damage because of that amulet, always was, but how much is it really ? And dont forget, I get some bonus damge from that amulet because of the %life to minions which boost my SRS-popcorn damage.

And after all this I will get a further conversion level of 100% of physical is converted to chaos damage from the ascendeny node. So there will be more conversion confusion...


Does somebody really know whats going on with all that conversion stuff ?


kind regards

@ seaman

I do know such "banal" things as damage conversion. But it is not always that simple with Poe. Although the wording should be taken literal, there is still a uncertainty/conflict with it sometimes.
And yes, I do have PoB, but I simply dont like it. Never did. - Thats my problem, I know -.

+ How do I, how do you know, that PoB does everthing correct? Did you wrote
the code ? It is a very good and highly complex program, but not flawless.

"And you, most likely..." Thats it ! Most likely is not a 100% sure.

So, I did put off the amulet and used SRS with one minion. There is a slight notable difference in damage when the pop-sound of the SRS occurs, but it is very subtile - because of the early level -. This all would support your statement.

The popping/exploding sound does happen with and without the amulet. How do you explain that ?

I will check it again, later at higher level - round about 80 -.

kind regards

But why does the infernal legion support gem fire damage to my srs, if I dont do
any fire damage ?
I checked it. The time delay of the lifetime of a single srs with AND without
sidhebreath + infernal legion support is identical. There is no difference.
Infernal legion does redude the lifetime of my srs significantly.

There is a huge difference in lifetime for my srs, if I drop the infernal legion support gem. But sidhebreath has no effect on it whatsoever..


My main question ALWAYS did relate to the whole, complex subject, including minion instablity.