Ultimatum Ruin How do i Avoid it?

So I been testing out Ultimatum in Standard and Ruin from what I can tell seams random. I can't tell what monster has it at the time due to monster clutter, there is way to many enemies for me to see where it is.

I have tried just Whirlblading around, sometimes it works but other times I instantly get like 5+ ruin at once out of nowhere even thou i keep moving.

Any suggestions?
Last bumped on Dec 12, 2023, 11:42:01 PM
I too would like to know whats going on with it.
It needs to be removed from Ultimatum.
Or have a way to turn it of in the atlas tree.

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