Latency issue - WinMTR report included

Hi! So I have a problem. When I enter a new instance sometimes I have a totally unplayable latency such as many hundred ms+. If I switch the instance by force opening a new one (by ctrl clicking the entrance) I am able to get a stable one after a few tries. This issue persists for me for years now but I'm willing to not play the game anymore because of it. Not any other game ever produces this issue. I am posting WinMTR logs because that's the suggested aaction. I can only hope someone can fix my issue. Thanks.

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| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.1 - 0 | 342 | 342 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| 10.238.240.1 - 0 | 342 | 342 | 4 | 7 | 21 | 7 |
| 145.236.79.64 - 1 | 338 | 337 | 6 | 8 | 21 | 7 |
|Te0-9-0-16.core0-dataplex.net.telekom.hu - 0 | 342 | 342 | 8 | 10 | 17 | 10 |
| 81.183.3.49 - 1 | 334 | 332 | 9 | 11 | 26 | 10 |
| 80.157.206.178 - 1 | 338 | 337 | 14 | 16 | 28 | 14 |
| 87.128.239.253 - 0 | 341 | 341 | 13 | 16 | 74 | 16 |
| win-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 66 | 95 | 33 | 0 | 14 | 27 | 14 |
| ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 94 | 73 | 5 | 0 | 26 | 30 | 30 |
| prs-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 99 | 69 | 1 | 0 | 34 | 34 | 34 |
| prs-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net - 0 | 342 | 342 | 32 | 35 | 86 | 36 |
| datacamp-ic-355852.ip.twelve99-cust.net - 4 | 297 | 286 | 31 | 114 | 187 | 176 |
| vl221.par-itx5-dist-1.cdn77.com - 10 | 246 | 222 | 32 | 102 | 194 | 169 |
| unn-143-244-57-149.datapacket.com - 6 | 283 | 268 | 0 | 111 | 184 | 175 |
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WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Last bumped on Dec 9, 2023, 7:53:55 PM
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dancsa wrote:
Hi! So I have a problem. When I enter a new instance sometimes I have a totally unplayable latency such as many hundred ms+. If I switch the instance by force opening a new one (by ctrl clicking the entrance) I am able to get a stable one after a few tries. This issue persists for me for years now but I'm willing to not play the game anymore because of it. Not any other game ever produces this issue. I am posting WinMTR logs because that's the suggested aaction. I can only hope someone can fix my issue. Thanks.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.1 - 0 | 342 | 342 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| 10.238.240.1 - 0 | 342 | 342 | 4 | 7 | 21 | 7 |
| 145.236.79.64 - 1 | 338 | 337 | 6 | 8 | 21 | 7 |
|Te0-9-0-16.core0-dataplex.net.telekom.hu - 0 | 342 | 342 | 8 | 10 | 17 | 10 |
| 81.183.3.49 - 1 | 334 | 332 | 9 | 11 | 26 | 10 |
| 80.157.206.178 - 1 | 338 | 337 | 14 | 16 | 28 | 14 |
| 87.128.239.253 - 0 | 341 | 341 | 13 | 16 | 74 | 16 |
| win-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 66 | 95 | 33 | 0 | 14 | 27 | 14 |
| ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 94 | 73 | 5 | 0 | 26 | 30 | 30 |
| prs-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net - 99 | 69 | 1 | 0 | 34 | 34 | 34 |
| prs-b1-link.ip.twelve99.net - 0 | 342 | 342 | 32 | 35 | 86 | 36 |
| datacamp-ic-355852.ip.twelve99-cust.net - 4 | 297 | 286 | 31 | 114 | 187 | 176 |
| vl221.par-itx5-dist-1.cdn77.com - 10 | 246 | 222 | 32 | 102 | 194 | 169 |
| unn-143-244-57-149.datapacket.com - 6 | 283 | 268 | 0 | 111 | 184 | 175 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider



If you're seeing significant differences in latency between instances, you'll need to run a trace against both good and bad instances and post the output here. See MTR and Connectivity Issue Primer for directions.
Alright. Here is one from a good instance with ~30ms.

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.0.1 - 0 | 405 | 405 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 1 |
| 10.238.240.1 - 1 | 401 | 400 | 5 | 8 | 25 | 8 |
| 145.236.79.64 - 0 | 405 | 405 | 6 | 8 | 24 | 7 |
| Te0-9-0-16.core0-ip2.net.telekom.hu - 0 | 405 | 405 | 6 | 10 | 39 | 9 |
| 81.183.1.17 - 0 | 405 | 405 | 8 | 11 | 39 | 11 |
| 80.157.206.192 - 1 | 401 | 400 | 14 | 17 | 32 | 16 |
| m-ef2-i.M.DE.NET.DTAG.DE - 2 | 390 | 386 | 24 | 58 | 389 | 27 |
| 80.157.205.162 - 2 | 390 | 386 | 20 | 23 | 39 | 24 |
| 223.250.195.35.bc.googleusercontent.com - 1 | 394 | 391 | 33 | 36 | 51 | 36 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
Are both traces to the German gateway?

The "good" trace is using Google servers. These are used at the beginning of a league for overflow capacity. Your bad trace seems to have issues when it reaches the Telia (Twelve99) nodes. I remember some people had issues with Telia in the past but I've no idea if they were resolved.

Have you tried other European gateways?
I have the same issue with this being a "bad" host

https://pastebin.com/bQCxREM0

and a good host

https://pastebin.com/rHAcyHCW

it looks very much like there is substantial package loss in the first instance, but there are also more hops.

Last edited by guinesspig#6251 on Dec 9, 2023, 1:09:34 AM
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Kellog wrote:
Are both traces to the German gateway?

The "good" trace is using Google servers. These are used at the beginning of a league for overflow capacity. Your bad trace seems to have issues when it reaches the Telia (Twelve99) nodes. I remember some people had issues with Telia in the past but I've no idea if they were resolved.

Have you tried other European gateways?


I have tried Paris, Milan, London, Amsterdam and Frankfurt. All have the same issue. I even tried it with VPN still the same.
And as I mentioned I have this phenomenon for years now and not only on league launches. Very annoying especially when I have to burn 2-3 map portals to find a normal latency instance.
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dancsa wrote:
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Kellog wrote:
Are both traces to the German gateway?

The "good" trace is using Google servers. These are used at the beginning of a league for overflow capacity. Your bad trace seems to have issues when it reaches the Telia (Twelve99) nodes. I remember some people had issues with Telia in the past but I've no idea if they were resolved.

Have you tried other European gateways?


I have tried Paris, Milan, London, Amsterdam and Frankfurt. All have the same issue. I even tried it with VPN still the same.
And as I mentioned I have this phenomenon for years now and not only on league launches. Very annoying especially when I have to burn 2-3 map portals to find a normal latency instance.


If it's happening on all European gateways it's likely just bad peering/routing. Have you spoken to your ISP, sometimes they're helpful... Also, have you tried Moscow?

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