Frenzy of Onslaught is bad

Frenzy builds doesn't need more speed, they need help with clearing

Your "transfigured" gem doesn't change how it's played, this gem lost helm enchant

You can tell what gems you guys never play
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ryuukk33 wrote:
Frenzy builds doesn't need more speed, they need help with clearing

Your "transfigured" gem doesn't change how it's played, this gem lost helm enchant

You can tell what gems you guys never play
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i was hoping for a frenzy of impaling, giving liek 60% chance to impale, or somethign like divergent frenzy givin +1,+2 target,
Last edited by suriuken#0100 on Dec 7, 2023, 7:15:41 AM
Are people actually using Frenzy as a primary skill?

I've only ever seen it used as a utility skill, and the new Frenzy is perfectly fine for that.
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Are people actually using Frenzy as a primary skill?

I've only ever seen it used as a utility skill, and the new Frenzy is perfectly fine for that.


isn't it pretty easy to get onslaught due to flask and other effects? i only play with dancing devish and hollow palm, so i dont know how easy it acuatlly is since rampage gives permanent onslaught, so i dont know how good utility the new frenzy actually is, even tought i agree having a utility option is good, but i think having another one that helps the frenzy as a main damage build would also be good
Last edited by suriuken#0100 on Dec 7, 2023, 7:26:43 AM
Onslaught isn't that hard to get, but this actually sounds amazing if you can get this gem early on for leveling.
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Are people actually using Frenzy as a primary skill?

I've only ever seen it used as a utility skill, and the new Frenzy is perfectly fine for that.

I use Frenzy as a primary skill with BladeStorm as a back up. I can't see many uses for this variation. I guess it could do some good as a cheap way for a non-frenzy user to get onslaught for the movement buff, but seems like there are easier ways. Losing charges just tanks damage.
Last edited by Roziel_Longblade#1889 on Dec 7, 2023, 9:29:36 AM
I don't think in 10 years I've seen a main skill Frenzy build.

It was always a 4 link or something you tap to keep Frenzy Charges up. Kinda like Assassin's Mark.
For that use case it's better but it's a rare use case these days since frenzy charges are pretty easy to get for free. I don't even see Armor builds using Blood Rage anymore.

I did a rework of Frenzy years ago.

Spoiler
- Effectiveness of Added Damage: 140–220%.
- No longer grants Frenzy Changes.
- Remove Bow and Projectile Tags.
- Adds (3–103) to (5–149) Physical Damage.
- 15% More attack damage per Frenzy Charge.
- 30% Less Attack Damage when not at max Frenzy Charges.
- Each Frenzy Charge grants 5% Movement Speed.
- Each Frenzy Charge grants a stack of Wind Sheer increasing attack angle by 20% hitting other enemies for 10% damage per Frenzy Charge. Angle distance is affected by melee strike range.
"Never trust floating women." -Officer Kirac
did a frenzy bow slayer in crucible, but it was almost all t1 affixes on top of crucible tree with 40 crit per endurance charge that also carried alot. frenzy like most gems lacks dps. new version lacks even more dps - down to 3,5% multiplier when you average for a crappy 20% incr attack speed.

bring back(and improve) two versions with additional 2/3 targets/arrows and keep the multiplier at 7%. forgot about vengeant cascade - you can basically tripple the dps so its worth playing.
Last edited by feral_nature#7076 on Dec 7, 2023, 12:46:18 PM
I can't believe....really can't believe that it doesn't offer "increased effect of onslaught on you" per frenzy charge removed. Dumb-dee-dumb-dumb
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jsuslak313 wrote:
I can't believe....really can't believe that it doesn't offer "increased effect of onslaught on you" per frenzy charge removed. Dumb-dee-dumb-dumb
That is a good idea (without the Dumb-dee-dumb part). It still wouldn't make up for the att speed or damage loss on a dedicated frenzy build, but that change would make the gem worth using for more builds.

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