drop of conqueror maps

Hi there, i haven't play since the rework of the atlas when we fought for conquerors influence. I'm back and i've runned like 100 maps and still haven't drop any conqueror map. I've bought 2 from kirac but still.

I have invest in conquered conquerors in atlas passive and still don't see any drop.
Is the drop rate insanely low ? Or the fact i'm running my maps with maven or eater of the worlds prevent theses maps to drop ? I'm not really interrested in them but i need to kill each one of them to earn access to sirus and get one the 3 favoured map point i haven't got yet.

yes. it was changed. i checked patch history.
i tried to rush to the bosses but this dont work. or not worth it because i get more mats for shop.
so atm i just buy them from kirac...

Maybe professionals can enlighten us here.
Because so many YouTube videos have stopped working for a long time.

ok i least i'm not alone ^^

I strongly suspect the maven or the eater of the world active in map device being the problem here. It would make sense, we can't farm maven or eldritch bosses at the same time, why not sirus ? i feel like GGG want us to choose which endgame boss we want to farm but it's not written anywhere.

And when i look at atlas passive points guide, they always pick the conqueror node AND one of the exarch so i feel i'm missing something here ^^

Not a professional but for Conqueror maps you want 'Destructive Play' & 'Conquered Conquerors'. With Maven Witness (obviously).

And careful in HC some of those xtra bosses have corpse explosions.


Edit: Optimally also Atlas passives for duplicate map drops as these likely also apply. Dont know if any other Atlas passives apply or if its better to pick map with multiple native bosses.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Not a professional but for Conqueror maps you want 'Destructive Play' & 'Conquered Conquerors'. With Maven Witness (obviously).

And careful in HC some of those xtra bosses have corpse explosions.


Edit: Optimally also Atlas passives for duplicate map drops as these likely also apply. Dont know if any other Atlas passives apply or if its better to pick map with multiple native bosses.

I tried it a few weeks ago too. but with "wandering path" atlas kill:
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Wandering_Path
However, after many runs I hardly noticed any difference. then I came across a video where a blogger says that only the first boss kill counts. as there are no extra maps for multiple bosses with atlas skill?
Apparently that was changed too?

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Natchoum wrote:

ok i least i'm not alone ^^

I strongly suspect the maven or the eater of the world active in map device being the problem here. It would make sense, we can't farm maven or eldritch bosses at the same time, why not sirus ? i feel like GGG want us to choose which endgame boss we want to farm but it's not written anywhere.

And when i look at atlas passive points guide, they always pick the conqueror node AND one of the exarch so i feel i'm missing something here ^^

I also think it's great that important topics are being addressed. because I'm interested too.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Not a professional but for Conqueror maps you want 'Destructive Play' & 'Conquered Conquerors'. With Maven Witness (obviously).

And careful in HC some of those xtra bosses have corpse explosions.


Edit: Optimally also Atlas passives for duplicate map drops as these likely also apply. Dont know if any other Atlas passives apply or if its better to pick map with multiple native bosses.

I ll try with destructive play but i rarely do maven witness so i thought it was a waste of atlas points. I have too much to understand with passed leagues unplayed and her fight has way more mechanics than others. I tryed it one time and i feel i have to do it many times before understanding all and it's pretty long and expensive.

I don't play for hours every day so i'm focussing on the eater of the world which is way easier to kill with a good dps as you have to remember only one attack which OS ( and uber elder because i'm used to him ). That's why i like sirus, I already know him. Yeah I know i'm kind of lazy theses days ^^

But one information is important for me : You talk about this atlas point, which means you may have dropped some conqueror maps even with maven, which destroys my previous theory. Now i fear that drop rate is just ridiculously low and without spending much more time, i ll never get to sirus before months.

I'll try doing only maven for a time with your advice about atlas and see what's next.

If anyone know better, feel free to express it and thanks all being there

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Natchoum wrote:

Hi there, i haven't play since the rework of the atlas when we fought for conquerors influence. I'm back and i've runned like 100 maps and still haven't drop any conqueror map. I've bought 2 from kirac but still.

I have invest in conquered conquerors in atlas passive and still don't see any drop.
Is the drop rate insanely low ? Or the fact i'm running my maps with maven or eater of the worlds prevent theses maps to drop ? I'm not really interrested in them but i need to kill each one of them to earn access to sirus and get one the 3 favoured map point i haven't got yet.

The drop rate is 2-3% from map bosses in tier 14-16 maps, I'm unaware of how this is affected by chance for maps to drop 1 tier higher. So provided you have all 4 voidstones socketed you've just been unlucky. The best way is to boss rush with maven witness and destructive play, youu can run 100 maps an hour with a fast build and drop 10+ conquoror maps easily in that time.

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Krono555 wrote:

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Natchoum wrote:

Hi there, i haven't play since the rework of the atlas when we fought for conquerors influence. I'm back and i've runned like 100 maps and still haven't drop any conqueror map. I've bought 2 from kirac but still.

I have invest in conquered conquerors in atlas passive and still don't see any drop.
Is the drop rate insanely low ? Or the fact i'm running my maps with maven or eater of the worlds prevent theses maps to drop ? I'm not really interrested in them but i need to kill each one of them to earn access to sirus and get one the 3 favoured map point i haven't got yet.

The drop rate is 2-3% from map bosses in tier 14-16 maps, I'm unaware of how this is affected by chance for maps to drop 1 tier higher. So provided you have all 4 voidstones socketed you've just been unlucky. The best way is to boss rush with maven witness and destructive play, youu can run 100 maps an hour with a fast build and drop 10+ conquoror maps easily in that time.

Ah ok 2-3% it's pretty low so as i've only runned arround 100 hundred maps or so, it's just bad luck and nothing enourmous. I don't really know if the 3 points to go to conquered conqueror's is really worth it without destructive play as it add at max 1% chance.

I only have 3 voidstone, i haven't put the maven down, as i said too much mechanics for me right now and i didn't feel the need of more voidstone ( because i have a hard time getting enough sextants and i drop more maps than i can run ^^ ) but i ll try it again. But 100 maps in an hour ? it took me at least one weeks to do this with trading and so if i do 10 an hour it's a max ^^ do you talk about only boss rushing ? My build is not so fast but really fun and safe ( icestorm trickster by Kelvynn ). But preparing all the scarabs/sextants etc take me so much time ^^ may be i ll have to buy them in bunch and put them per stack in map device.

Really thank you, you answered the question. The drop rate is just really low and except maven & conquerors node, we can't do anything more to increased the ratio.

I loved to play with no rush but if we really have to do so much maps to get to endgame bosses, i ll follow one or 2 guide and try to map quickly, may be only do boss rushing for a time on maps with no investment.

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Zrevnur wrote:

Not a professional but for Conqueror maps you want 'Destructive Play' & 'Conquered Conquerors'. With Maven Witness (obviously).

And careful in HC some of those xtra bosses have corpse explosions.


Edit: Optimally also Atlas passives for duplicate map drops as these likely also apply. Dont know if any other Atlas passives apply or if its better to pick map with multiple native bosses.

I tried it a few weeks ago too. but with "wandering path" atlas kill:
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Wandering_Path
However, after many runs I hardly noticed any difference. then I came across a video where a blogger says that only the first boss kill counts. as there are no extra maps for multiple bosses with atlas skill?
Apparently that was changed too?

Wandering Path makes it impossible to get the 30% increased. Other than that it should work.
My personal experience is also that 'Destructive Play' (no Wandering Path) works. I dropped masses of Guardian & Conqueror maps with it and not many without it.

Edit: IIRC Maven invitations also drop those maps. Dont know if there are restrictions though.