[Busted] I may (not) have cracked ngmaha flame's advance

Hey guys hear me out, I was pobing the new chieftain, and I think I might understand the new ascendancy notable ngmahahu, flame's advance.

It makes increase and reductions apply to fire damage right ? Guess what many nodes for melee attacks have a separate increase for attack damage and ailments. So the ascendancy effectively doubles all those nodes effectiveness. exemple cluster jewel : 8 passive axe and sword damage

this cluster now gives 24% ( 12 * 2 ) increase fire dmg per small passive and notables now give :
- devastator : 40% fire damage
- heavy hitter : 60% fire damage
- martial prowess : 40% fire damage
- wound aggravation : 40% fire damage

So for a 8 passive jewel, we reach a total of ... 228% increase fire damage. So we gain 114% increase fire damage from only one cluster jewel that we would have used anyway so there is technically no opportunity cost.

And we can replicate that anywhere on the tree for nodes we would have taken anyway, like 'axe damage' and his notable cleaving => it's now 36% increase fire damage PER small passive and 60% increase for cleave. If we take that too, the ascendency now gives us : 114% from cluster + 100% from axe wheel => 214% increase fire damage.

And we can go further as the ascendancy applies to every jewel in the tree.
And we also gain some substancial strength now with it.

What's your thoughts on this ? Do I blind myself or is there something here ?

Edit : I missed something, indeed, cluster jewels can't be converted. there goes half of the benefits. Well this is definitly underwhelming then.

You know they keep the weapon qualifiers right?

Also cluster jewels can't be converted

Yeah the weapon qualifier is not a problem if you play the right weapon, an axe in my case

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Draegnarrr wrote:

You know they keep the weapon qualifiers right?

Also cluster jewels can't be converted

Can't convert cluster jewels ? Ho that's a bummer...

I'm not trying to rain on your parade here btw just keep in mind fireborn existed before this ascendancy notable and fireborn had fairly limited usage scenarios.

The new node seems like a shoe in for brutus's lead sprinkler to me more than anything else. Pog synergy

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Draegnarrr wrote:

The new node seems like a shoe in for brutus's lead sprinkler to me more than anything else. Pog synergy

Not even that, the old chieftain was great for Brutus for both totem and self cast but the new node won't bandage anything at all. The small strength gain won't cover the lost 10% and the fire damage won't cover the fire pen, cover in ash or ancestral totem nodes

Ngmaha flames advance should also convert the jewel itself...

Buy some cheap shit jewel for 1c that has a mixmatch of damage types and all gets converted to fire. 1c jewel is now worth 10div (to you)